Muslims: The testimony of a man who said he heard an angel while alone in a cave

[-Peacemaker-]

Originally Posted by Storm

Did you miss the reference to Caesar?

Try to think really hard about the comparison of Jesus to Caesar.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by Junglej25

Try to think really hard about the comparison of Jesus to Caesar.

It wasn't a comparison, it was a timeline. You know, the EXACT thing you were complaining about.

[-Peacemaker-]

Originally Posted by Storm

It wasn't a comparison, it was a timeline. You know, the EXACT thing you were complaining about.

Caesar was arguably the most famous man in the world during his own lifetime. Jesus? Not so much

[Storm]

Originally Posted by Junglej25

Caesar was arguably the most famous man in the world during his own lifetime. Jesus? Not so much

Oh? What happened to the hundreds of thousands of witnesses?

[Me Myself]

Originally Posted by Junglej25

This isn't a "biblical" issue. It's a TIME issue.

Let me put it simple for you:

You have as many evidence for your texr being of god as the iliad and the odissey has of Zeus poseidon and the others exist.

You have as much evidence as the hinduist texts that say that a whole town of people saw Krishna diong his miracles while he was a kid.

In other words, you have as much evidence as pretty much any other religious text.

Given that not all of them can be 100% correct according to your believe, you cannot think that that is an accurate portrayal of what should be believable.

so basically the muslims can say that they believe the Qran doesn´t come from the devil for the same reason you think The bible doesn´t come from the devil trying to confuse the jews or other humans into thinking human can be God and thus blaspheming such to take them out of their road.

This, by the way, means you have 0 evidence.

Understandable?

[-Peacemaker-]

Originally Posted by Storm

Oh? What happened to the hundreds of thousands of witnesses?

I said hundreds AND thousands, almost all illiterate in a backwater region of the Roman empire

[Meow Mix]

Originally Posted by Junglej25

Caesar was arguably the most famous man in the world during his own lifetime. Jesus? Not so much

Originally Posted by Storm

Oh? What happened to the hundreds of thousands of witnesses?

That made me grin

[darkendless]

Originally Posted by Junglej25

Caesar was arguably the most famous man in the world during his own lifetime. Jesus? Not so much

Thats not the point. There are hundreds of books about less famous people as well. I used Caesar because he died around the 2000 year mark. Who I use as an example is not important, but my arguement that you clearly missed is that you can't use 2000 years as an excuse to muddle up history when at that time we have some great books about people living at the time of Jesus who may or may not have been as famous.

I'm debating your arguement that you have to treat the bible differently based on age.

[darkendless]

Jungle: To continue, what about the Gracchi? 2 Roman brothers who weren't actually that powerful and ultimately failed to achieve their goals. We have a detailed history of them and they lived over a hundred years before Jesus?

[Me Myself]

Originally Posted by Junglej25

I said hundreds AND thousands, almost all illiterate in a backwater region of the Roman empire

Jewish historians existed in that time.

No mention of the person that feeded thousands of people in the mount, or did all the miracles, not oeven of the criminal that was so horrible that he was crucified instead of the murderer for his blasphemies.

Nothing.

This, if you haven´t noticed, is suspicious.

Have you ruled out the oddisey and the Illiad yet? Maybe you should fear poseidon.

Maybe Hades wrote the bible so people wouldn´t worship zeus. Maybe he´ll be ****** with you man. Wouldn´t go out in a storm if I were you.