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Old 04-13-2005, 08:33 AM
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Etymology: Middle English religioun, from ...
Language is organic and dynamic. Etymology does not determine meaning.

Parenthetically, the Online Etymology Dictionary notes, "according to Cicero, [religion is] derived from relegare "go through again, read again," from re- "again" + legere "read" (see lecture)." It then goes on to offer the standard alternative.

All in all, argument by pocket dictionary is frequently underwhelming.
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Old 04-13-2005, 08:34 AM
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I could ask the same question as Deut, in regards to UUism.... we have no creed or dogma, although we do have a clear origin.
I would say that a UU church has an organization at some level, if not more than one. and I'm sure there is, at least, a statement of purpose.
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Old 04-13-2005, 08:35 AM
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Can "advanced" religions be seen as the exploitation of basic human spirituality in order to bring about social cohesion?
That can be seen as a "side effect" of sorts. I don't believe any religion was formed for that sole purpose, but as they say, power corrupts...
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Is there an assumption that all those "isms" are religions?
Yes. At the very least, you appear more willing than I to adopt a definition of religion that excludes them.
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Can "advanced" religions be seen as the exploitation of basic human spirituality in order to bring about social cohesion?
That's my thought and it selects for survival.
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I would say that a UU church has an organization at some level, if not more than one. and I'm sure there is, at least, a statement of purpose.
Organization? Have you ever been to a UU church?

Yes, I suppose we do, on some level.
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Old 04-13-2005, 08:38 AM
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I would say that a UU church has an organization at some level, if not more than one. and I'm sure there is, at least, a statement of purpose.
So does a Little League team. The point is, if you accept UU as a religion, you must necessarily modify your original definition.
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Yes. At the very least, you appear more willing than I to adopt a definition of religion that excludes them.
I've read your post to Michel so I'm not going to go that route. I can agree to disagree, if that's okay with you. Otherwise, I will congenially answer other questions as I can.
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