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Old 03-06-2011, 08:12 AM
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It doesn't matter. My agreeing or disagreeing won't be heard.
Er, yes it will.
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:07 AM
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Er, yes it will.
It already hasn't.
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:30 AM
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A single number would not suffice, but collections can, just have they sufficed for describing everything else.
So the concept of a singularity...the one...doesn't work for you?

In the beginning...........
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:34 AM
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I think the blue ones are not beliefs in strict sense. They are factual knowledge based on agreed references.

The red one is different.

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All three statements follow the same form. If the "therefore" work for one, it works for all three.
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:40 AM
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So the concept of a singularity...the one...doesn't work for you?

In the beginning...........
Singularities are perfectly describable. You merely have to be careful about the questions you ask of them.
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:53 AM
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All three statements follow the same form. If the "therefore" work for one, it works for all three.
Game, set, match.
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Singularities are perfectly describable. You merely have to be careful about the questions you ask of them.
Got an equation for that?

For the singularity to be truly singular.....
no space.... no time...no light...heat....movement....etc....etc....

The void.
In the beginning........
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Got an equation for that?



There's your singularity. If you plot that function, you end up with a funnel shape. I could tell you the slope of the funnel at any point you wanted, except if you asked me about the center of the funnel, where there is no slope. Just because there isn't a slope there doesn't mean that the whole thing can't exist.
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There's your singularity. If you plot that function, you end up with a funnel shape. I could tell you the slope of the funnel at any point you wanted, except if you asked me about the center of the funnel, where there is no slope. Just because there isn't a slope there doesn't mean that the whole thing can't exist.

And this is where an atheist would call my thinking...mythical.

For a singularity to be singular....no geometry allowed.
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And this is where an atheist would call my thinking...mythical.

For a singularity to be singular....no geometry allowed.
A singularity is a purely geometrical concept.
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