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One of the best philosophers of all time is Jesus and his ideas are light years ahead of most human societies today and the God of the Old Testament. However, I have a bone to pick with Jesus which about the issue of divorce. In Matthew chapter 5 Jesus gives some rules concerning revenge, adultery, murder and also divorce. Verses 31 and 32 describe Jesus' opinion toward divorce.
31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[f] 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. So apparently you can't divorce unless there is adultery and cannot marry a divorced person. In my opinions there are many many reasons to divorce and have seen them first hand as a child. I have seen families with severe physical, vocal, and emotional abuse and any of these reasons are legitimate reasons for divorce. There are just so many ways your partner can be screwed up and I think Jesus is just plain wrong on divorce. The part about not marrying divorced people make no sense to me and I do not see how anybody can support that. These ideas may have been justified 2000 years ago but they simply make no sense today. This is just further evidence that the rules of the bible are not absolute rules of how people should conduct their lives.
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I don't support not being to divorce in any way. It would be my choice to marry someone and it would be my choice to divorce someone too. There is a lot about religion that I don't understand, and this is one part of it. Just seems another way to control people.
I do believe that people should know each other pretty well before marrying, and trying to make it work once married, but to me marriage is a legal aspect of a relationship, and I don't personally see any need for it today, a lot has changed since the Bible was written.
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Last edited by Nerthus; 11-16-2010 at 01:53 PM.. |
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i am unsure how could something be wrong when it is a necessity...and this; 'anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.' is just weird and makes no sense. how could sex be adultery if they're married? anyways, i disagree with you. IMO noone is meant to be slave to another. it is one's right to chose to be happy. if your marriage was a torment it is your right to divorce and if you get married it is a new start and it is not adultery
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Jesus had more of a point 2000 years ago when a divorced woman would have almost certainly been forced to turn to prostitution to support herself. Not much else would have been open to her in the economy of Palestine at that time in history.
But today?
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I think divorce is "wrong" in the sense that it always represents a failure of love and commitment on the part of at least one of the couple. It's not a good thing. But I think we all know, or should know, that there are many instances in which continuing the marriage is a far greater evil than ending it.
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I understand how divorce was far more harmful back then. I wonder if Jesus considered the idea that there might be exceptions to his rule. Maybe you got married to a really bad wife and NEED to separate. There are exceptions.
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telling people that divorce is wrong is not going to help them work their marriage. i think marriage is difficult and it requires sacrifice. i personally believe marriage ends when only one of the partners do that sacrifice and it happens quite a lot. just like a joke, most of the time women sacrifice a lot and men have holiday. women always have a heavy burden in everything. maybe it would be better educate men about marriage, instead of saying 'divorce is wrong' teach them how and why marriage starts failing and how ego of men works in that process. men has to stop using women as their private maid, to clean, to cook..etc. no surprise if women are better off alone. men consume them and in return women emotionally expect certain interest that men could never offer
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Although, depends on where you live in some circumstances I suppose.
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Are you fleeing from Love because of a single humiliation? What do you know of Love except the name? Love has a hundred forms of pride and disdain, and is gained by a hundred means of persuasion. RUMI |
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Many things end a marriage, but I wouldn't say that it's always down to the way men treat women.
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