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The image circled is a cross-like image, called a starogram. In P66, the earliest manuscript of the Gospel of John, the starogram replaces two letters in Greek (our t and r) within the word "crucify" in John 19.15,18,and 20. It looks like a cross. Very cool stuff... apparently, the Christian scribes who accepted the "Gnostic" Gospel of Thomas also had some knowledge of what was going on with the ones who accepted John.

This also appears in the Codex.

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Notes: The first pic comes from - The Coptic Gospel of Thomas

The second one comes from The facsimile edition of the Nag Hammadi codices. Published under the auspices of the Department of Antiquities of the Arab Republic of Egypt. In conjunction with the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Leiden, Brill, 1972-1984. TCU [q] PJ2199 .C5 1972


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Yeah, they'll be included. I'm basically introducing the Gospel of Thomas, Infancy G. of Thomas, Proto-Gospel of James, and other apocryphal Gospels.
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A "starogram"? Googled it and found nothing.
It looks like an ankh, which wouldn't surprise me since the text we have of Thomas is in Coptic.
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A "starogram"? Googled it and found nothing.
It looks like an ankh, which wouldn't surprise me since the text we have of Thomas is in Coptic.
I'll be able to post better pics later. It took me forever last night to get the name for it - it's also called a roh-cross. The significance, of course, is that the symbol takes the place of the same Greek letters in the word for "cross" in Thomas as it does in John.

Here's the saying: GThomas, split-screen (click on 55), the word is "cross"
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So we have in P66 the symbol replacing the letters "t" and "r" (and the vowels between them) just like in Thomas saying 55. The bold letters indicate where the staurogram or roh-cross appear.

John 19:15-19 15 They cried out, "Away with him, away with him, crucify him!" Pilate said to them, "Shall I crucify your King?" The chief priests answered, "We have no king but Caesar." 16 So he delivered him over to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus, 17 and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called the place of a skull, which in Aramaic is called Golgotha. 18 There they crucified him, and with him two others, one on either side, and Jesus between them. 19 Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the cross. It read, "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews."

John 19:15-19 15 evkrau,gasan ou=n evkei/noi\ a=ron a=ron( stau,rwson auvto,nÅ le,gei auvtoi/j o` Pila/toj\ to.n basile,a u`mw/n staurw,swÈ avpekri,qhsan oi` avrcierei/j\ ouvk e;comen basile,a eiv mh. Kai,saraÅ 16 To,te ou=n pare,dwken auvto.n auvtoi/j i[na staurwqh/|Å Pare,labon ou=n to.n VIhsou/n( 17 kai. basta,zwn e`autw/| to.n stauro.n evxh/lqen eivj to.n lego,menon Krani,ou To,pon( o] le,getai ~Ebrai?sti. Golgoqa( 18 o[pou auvto.n evstau,rwsan( kai. metV auvtou/ a;llouj du,o evnteu/qen kai. evnteu/qen( me,son de. to.n VIhsou/nÅ 19 e;grayen de. kai. ti,tlon o` Pila/toj kai. e;qhken evpi. tou/ staurou/\ h=n de. gegramme,non\ VIhsou/j o` Nazwr
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