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hi
![]() i would try to transfer some knowledge. there are some concepts in Qur'an. unfortunately they are forgotten. we use names but we do not know what they mean. the most important concept is 'going/inclining towards' to God. in other words 'wishing to reach to God'. there's always been one religion. from Adam(PBUH) to Mohammed(PBUH) only one religion was explained. Islam is the name of haneef religion of Abraham(PBUH). the word haneef means Islam and that means submitting to God. religion that people lived during time of Jesus(PBUH) and in time of Moses(PBUH) were both haneef religion of Abraham(PBUH). [42:13] The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - that which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: namely, that ye should remain steadfast in Religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him). in these translation the word 'sheria' is translated as religion. all the Prophets that mentioned in these verse had the same religion/sheria which means; 1-remain steadfast in religion 2-make no divisions therein (being one division) this concept is about being that one division. basics of Haneef religion/submission is 1-Vahdet-Oneness 2-Tevhid-One division 3-Teslim-Submission this is the content of universal religion of God. there are four submissions. submission of Spirit, physical body, nafs/ego and free will. to have this process of submission to start, one must turn to God, one must wish to reach God. in Qur'an Allah Almighty calls believers 'Amenu'. this word means 'who believes', 'the one who has faith'. [8:29] O ye who believe! if ye fear Allah, He will grant you a criterion (to judge between right and wrong), remove from you (all) evil (that may afflict) you, and forgive you: for Allah is the Lord of grace unbounded. i quote verses from an ordinary website. as usual translation is poor. in these verse, it actually says 'O ye who believe! have taqva...' the word taqva is always translated as fear. so, why would Allah invite 'believers of God' to taqva? they are already believers, they already have faith in God. so why? it is because having taqva is something more than having faith in God. some one who does not have faith in God could have taqva. but it is possible people who has faith would not have taqva. is taqva important? yes, it definitely is. because if you did not have taqva, you could not enter heaven. even if you have faith in God, without taqva you earn hell. [30:31] Turn ye back in repentance to Him, and fear Him: establish regular prayers, and be not ye among those who join gods with Allah, as you see in this verse it mentions to turn to God again. once more the expression 'have taqva' translated as fear God. check out original verse if it's needed. this verse shows that the only way not to be one of mushriks is to have taqva. and if you do not turn to God, you could not have taqva. the next verse explains who the mushriks are; [30:32] Those who split up their Religion, and become (mere) sects, each party rejoicing in that which is with itself! i hope you see that concept of 'going/turning towards' God is very important. with one wish you can turn to God. only if you wish to reach who created you, you'd be inclining to God. wishing to reach God or not means choosing heaven or hell. because people who does not have taqva is in shirk, even if they have faith in God. taqva does not come along with faith. taqva occurs when one wants to reach God. people who wants to reach God is not in shirk and they are close to heaven. [50:31] And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous; no more a thing distant. in original text, you'd see this verse does not say 'the Rigtheous', it uses to expression 'muttekine' which means 'owners of taqva'. i know don't why Noble Qur'an was translated wrong. that's the reason wy all the concepts disappear. if you care, and i think you should, be careful about translations. we study Qur'an word by word. when i read meaning i see what each word mean. this is very important. [10:7] Those who rest not their hope on their meeting with Us, but are pleased and satisfied with the life of the Present, and those who heed not Our Signs, in this translation, it uses expression 'meeting with us'. the original text says 'they do not want to be -mulaki-' this word, mulaki means 'to reach'. [10:7] tells about people who does not want to reach God. [10:8] Their abode is the Fire, because of the (evil) they earned. as a result people who does not want to reach God earns hell. [13:27] The Unbelievers say: "Why is not a Sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Truly Allah leaveth, to stray, whom He will; but He guideth to Himself those who turn to Him in penitence. i find it very difficult to explain verse in English, since all the translations are killing the concepts. it is also difficult to try on the net. better to do it in person. i do not have that chance with you my brothers and sisters. i do care for you so much. i am not here to drag you into a discussion with me. i know it is useless to discuss about this. if you ask a imam about reaching God, he would say you'd reach God after you die. i invite you to think about this. everyone would reach God after death. what's the difference between then? it is your personal responsibility to give some effort to understand Qur'an. imam might be wrong. they are mostly are wrong. all i could do is just to warn you about this. do not be mad at me. at the end you are on your own as i am. if you wish to reach Allah Almighty, then Allah would guide you. if you do not have that wish within your heart, then it does not matter if you have faith in God, or if you go fasting, or if you salaat...all your doings would be wasted. because these practices are tools to get closer to God. they are like a car. if you did not have a reaching point, you can still drive that car but unfortunately you get nowhere as you did not have a direction, a reaching point. that is what 'turning God' means. it means wishing to reach God. i wish you the best my friends bye ![]()
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as it was written, "die before you die."
Allah is wheresoever you turn. it is good to meditate on the meaning of the verses of the quran. it has been written that each ayat has 7 meanings.... peace
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