So, how does this system work?? (tradition, choice, Christianity, Christians)

[fullyveiled muslimah]

I really would like for someone of this mindset to explain it because it is lost on me. If one intends never to follow any sunnah, how then do they compensate for the vital parts missing? Like, how to fast for example. I find that Quran is a book that explains what to do, but does not necessarily explain how it is to be done. It would really help if someone would explain it.

Like it was said before, we can't argue here so a simple explaination will do.

[EiNsTeiN]

Originally Posted by fullyveiled muslimah

I really would like for someone of this mindset to explain it because it is lost on me. If one intends never to follow any sunnah, how then do they compensate for the vital parts missing? Like, how to fast for example. I find that Quran is a book that explains what to do, but does not necessarily explain how it is to be done. It would really help if someone would explain it.

Like it was said before, we can't argue here so a simple explaination will do.

I second that too...

The Quran has the main lines of our religion, but doesn't actually has every detail of what we have to do..
Quran and Sunna complement each other..
May any one of the ''Quran only'' people come and explain this to us?

[Booko]

Ask Jamesi for a start.

I have a question for the non-Qu'ran alone Muslims that might be relevant, though, because as an ex-Calvinist I can easily imagine keeping the Qu'ran but declining to pay attention to much of the conflicting tradition in Islam.

How does one decide what is and isn't kuffir?

Who gets to decide, and where did Muhammad (pbuh) say
so?

If there are multiple opinions on some interpretation, how is the individual believer to decide which interpretation is best?

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by Booko

as an ex-Calvinist I can easily imagine keeping the Qu'ran but declining to pay attention to much of the conflicting tradition in Islam.

What do you mean excatly by the conflicting tradition in Islam?

How does one decide what is and isn't kuffir?

Who gets to decide, and where did Muhammad (pbuh) say
so?

If there are multiple opinions on some interpretation, how is the individual believer to decide which interpretation is best?

You might ask these questions in the general Islam DIR where all Muslims can see.

[Mujahid Mohammed]

Originally Posted by Booko

Ask Jamesi for a start.

I have a question for the non-Qu'ran alone Muslims that might be relevant, though, because as an ex-Calvinist I can easily imagine keeping the Qu'ran but declining to pay attention to much of the conflicting tradition in Islam.

What conflicting tradition there is only one islam and one tradition. I am not following you.

How does one decide what is and isn't kuffir?

by the statements of Allah and His Messenger.

Who gets to decide, and where did Muhammad (pbuh) say
so?

I already answered this and I agree with the truth post it in the islam forum.
If there are multiple opinions on some interpretation, how is the individual believer to decide which interpretation is best?[/quote]

[Zakaria]

Peace be upon you

Almight God sent the final prophet (a messenger who delivers a scripture) Muhammad with Quran.

In Quran God says that it confirms and supersedes all previous scriptures:

[5:44] We have sent down the Torah, containing guidance and light. Ruling in accordance with it were the Jewish prophets, as well as the rabbis and the priests, as dictated to them in GOD's scripture, and as witnessed by them. Therefore, do not reverence human beings; you shall reverence Me instead. And do not trade away My revelations for a cheap price. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the disbelievers.

[5:45] And we decreed for them in it that: the life for the life, the eye for the eye, the nose for the nose, the ear for the ear, the tooth for the tooth, and an equivalent injury for any injury. If one forfeits what is due to him as a charity, it will atone for his sins. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the unjust.

[5:46] Subsequent to them, we sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the previous scripture, the Torah. We gave him the Gospel, containing guidance and light, and confirming the previous scriptures, the Torah, and augmenting its guidance and light, and to enlighten the righteous.

[5:47] The people of the Gospel shall rule in accordance with GOD's revelations therein. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD's revelations are the wicked.

[5:48] Then we revealed to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them. You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD's revelations, and do not follow their wishes if they differ from the truth that came to you. For each of you, we have decreed laws and different rites. Had GOD willed, He could have made you one congregation. But He thus puts you to the test through the revelations He has given each of you. You shall compete in righteousness. To GOD is your final destiny - all of you - then He will inform you of everything you had disputed.

Thus, Quran is the ultimate source and the final testament to entire humanity.

Muhammad's sole mission was to deliver the Quran, however, after his death, in order to divert people from Quran, Satan fabricated Hadith & Sunnah, rivaling God's book. Muslims, generation after generation started to follow these doctrines that has nothing to do with Muhammad.

Hadith & Sunnah books preaches the idolatry of Muhammad, his family and companions, while Quran preaches the worship of God alone - the same one god who sent all previouse scriptures and messengers to guide the people.

Moreover, God tells us in Quran that He has permitted the human/jinn devil's to fabricate these laws and thus expose their real conviction, and those who follow them.

[6:112] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.

[6:113] This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.

In the verses that follows God tells us that Quran is fully detaliled, and complete - no need for any other source.

[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
[6:115] The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.

[6:116] If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess.

[6:117] Your Lord is fully aware of those who stray off His path, and He is fully aware of those who are guided.

Zakaria

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by Zakaria

Muhammad's sole mission was to deliver the Quran

Do you have any verse from the Quran which proves this claim?

however, after his death, in order to divert people from Quran, Satan fabricated Hadith & Sunnah, rivaling God's book. Muslims, generation after generation started to follow these doctrines that has nothing to do with Muhammad.

Did you meet Satan personaly and he told you that he fabrictaed it?

If you didn't, then how do you know?

I can tell you right now that Satan is messing with your head to tell us these stuff.

I hope that you have a solid proof to depend on instead of calling anything which you don't agree with Satanic.

Hadith & Sunnah books preaches the idolatry of Muhammad, his family and companions

When you sit for the last Rak'a, what do you excatly say about Mohammed and his family in the final Tashahud?


Thank you.

[Zakaria]

Peace, The Truth

Muhammad's sole duty was to deliver the Quran, the whole Quran, and nothing but Quran:

[Quran 6:19] (O Muhammad) say, "Whose testimony is the greatest?" Say, "GOD's. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches. Indeed, you bear witness that there are other gods* beside GOD." Say, "I do not testify as you do; there is only one god, and I disown your idolatry."

*6:19 This verse proclaims the Quran as the only source of religious guidance. Those who uphold additional sources, such as Hadith & Sunna (lies attributed to the Prophet), are defined as idolaters. Rashad Khalifa

Originally Posted by The Truth

When you sit for the last Rak'a, what do you excatly say about Mohammed and his family in the final Tashahud?

I say, "Ash-hado Anna: La ilaaha illa Allaah" (I bear witness that: There is no god except God)

This is the correct Shahaada by 1) God, 2) the angels and 3) those who know.

[Quran 3:18] GOD bears witness that there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.

Satan added Muhammad's name after the prophets death, to make us orbit around Muhammad instead God. Muhammad said the same Shahaada, since he uttered Quran, and there is no "...Muhammad Rasolo Allaah" to be added in the shahaada. In entire Quran, the shahaada is dedicated to God alone.

[Quran 37:35] When they were told, "Lã Elãha Ella Allãh [There is no other god beside GOD]," they turned arrogant.

Also, the places of worship (masajid, where you prostrate) belongs to God alone, so we are forbidden from calling upon any other name beside God's; in the salat, putting names on walls in the mosques etc.

[Quran 72:18] The places of worship belong to GOD; do not call on anyone else beside GOD.

Originally Posted by The Truth

Did you meet Satan personaly and he told you that he fabrictaed it?

If you didn't, then how do you know?

God tells us in 6:112 that he permitted the devils among the jinns and humans to fabricated words, rivaling the scriptre the prophet comes with. I wrote about it in the post before.

Zakaria

[Peace]

Originally Posted by Zakaria

*6:19 This verse proclaims the Quran as the only source of religious guidance. Those who uphold additional sources, such as Hadith & Sunna (lies attributed to the Prophet), are defined as idolaters. Rashad Khalifa

If you continue to follow that Rashad Khalifa believe me he will drag you with him to the pit of hellfire. Wake up Zakaria and repent to God before it's too late!

Originally Posted by Zakaria

I say, "Ash-hado Anna: La ilaaha illa Allaah" (I bear witness that: There is no god except God)

Then your tashahud is imcomplete and thus incorrect. Just tell me how do you know how to pray and how many rak`as and how to do the ablution .....? Isn't it from Prophet Muhammad pbuh and his Sunnah?