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Old 07-03-2007, 10:37 PM
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Well a Rosary is really just Buddhist prayer bead with something on the end right? I roses by any other name I say, doesn't really matter what you call them the idea is the same.
Not really! The rosary is a Roman catholic devotional to the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the Trinity recalling the sacred mysteries of the life of Jesus and Mary in the bible and sacred tradition. it is also a intercessory form of prayer as well as meditative and spoken. This is completely different from Buddist prayer beads or anything else from other religions.
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:19 PM
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Not really! The rosary is a Roman catholic devotional to the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the Trinity recalling the sacred mysteries of the life of Jesus and Mary in the bible and sacred tradition. it is also a intercessory form of prayer as well as meditative and spoken. This is completely different from Buddist prayer beads or anything else from other religions.
Rosary:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/4/4d/20060602151013!Rosary_2006-01-16.jpg

Buddhist Prayer Beads



Well from what I know the Buddhist pray and meditate on the bead and the concept to me, just looks a little different and for little different reasons on who or what it pray to.
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Well from what I know the Buddhist pray and meditate on the bead and the concept to me, just looks a little different and for little different reasons on who or what it pray to.

I can understand what you mean. They look similar but the rosary is totally different in meaning and its invention has a different historical meaning. Also Wikipedia is not a scholarly or even good source for specific info. Any one can wright anthing on it. It could be changed by tommorrow Look into the history of the rosary and you will see.

Also notice the beads are different from the rosary!

Here is the history of the rosary and why it was created.

http://www.familyrosary.org/main/rosary-explanation.php

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Thank you Grimmjow, that is the picture I was looking for.

I am pming Spiritually Inclined with more info (I'm not sure if it is proper to post it here). If anyone else wants it let me know

As to the whole debate about the rosary only being christian, it's just a technicality. The OP was probably using the word because of our exposure to christianity, a rosary is much more common than prayer beads.

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I can understand what you mean. They look similar but the rosary is totally different in meaning and its invention has a different historical meaning. Also Wikipedia is not a scholarly or even good source for specific info. Any one can wright anthing on it. It could be changed by tommorrow Look into the history of the rosary and you will see.

Also notice the beads are different from the rosary!

Here is the history of the rosary and why it was created.

http://www.familyrosary.org/main/rosary-explanation.php
I think the problem here is that you call both the prayer and the beads on which it is counted off by the same name. This has lead to me coming across such absurdities as the mala being described as the Buddhist rosary or our own, older, tradition of preayer ropes (obliquely mentioned when your article refers to the Desert Fathers) as the Orthodox rosary. The latter is made even more confusing when one realises that there actually is an Orthodox rosary (slightly different from the RC one as aspects of that are contrary to our faith) which is a prayer said on beaded/knotted ropes which we refer to by another name (prayer ropes, in English, chotki in Russian, matanie in Romanian etc.) As I said in my last post, I think that the OP was using the term 'rosary' in the sense of the beads alone, which is why I pointed him towards a mala. Prayer beads/ropes in general are a tool that is common to any number of religions, it's how you use them (and to some degree the design), that differs from one to another.

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I think that it is the right thread to show you my collection of prayer beads,
rosaries, chotki, tasbihs, lestovka and so on.
You can see them at: http://jerzybg.republika.pl
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It,s me again.
Who really use prayers beads containing chaos star?
Neopagans?
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Well a Rosary is really just Buddhist prayer bead with something on the end right? I roses by any other name I say, doesn't really matter what you call them the idea is the same.
No, they are distinctly different in their purpose and layout.

Look up the term "mala".
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It,s me again.
Who really use prayers beads containing chaos star?
Neopagans?
If that's what they choose to call themselves.

Is neo-Pagan use of prayer beads bothersome to you?
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Many Baha'is use prayer beads, because there are certain verses we repeat 95 times.

The beads are sometimes in a strand, and sometimes in a loop with a tail, but it's always a pattern of 19 beads of one color (or in the loop) with 5 beads of a different color that form part of the "tail". Here's a typical example: