Is Anarchy in the USA Possible?

[The Sum of Awe]

So, does there have to be a candidate that will speak in terms for Anarchy, then will drop down as soon as elected, letting the country run freely? Or can you simply vote Anarchy now? I don't see why you can't vote Anarchy in any election because it shouldn't need a candidate, and it is always an option.

[nyRednek]

Originally Posted by The Sum of Awe

So, does there have to be a candidate that will speak in terms for Anarchy, then will drop down as soon as elected, letting the country run freely? Or can you simply vote Anarchy now? I don't see why you can't vote Anarchy in any election because it shouldn't need a candidate, and it is always an option.

Um...Sum, how the hell can anyone "vote" for anarchy in an election designed to establish the government for the next 2 years and give it legitimacy? Where do you get this ****?

[Revoltingest]

Anarchy?
Here?
Not in a country full of sheep clamoring for more security & whining about needing more regulation of their lives.

[The Sum of Awe]

Originally Posted by yosi

Um...Sum, how the hell can anyone "vote" for anarchy in an election designed to establish the government for the next 2 years and give it legitimacy? Where do you get this ****?

Well, sorry for asking.

But I meant: how exactly would it be possible to get Anarchy in the USA? I didn't really think you could vote for it, but it was in relation to the candidate possibility also.

[The Sum of Awe]

Originally Posted by Revoltingest

Anarchy?
Here?
Not in a country full of sheep clamoring for more security & whining about needing more regulation of their lives.

XD, I know, but let's say, hypothetically, many people wanted it, how exactly would you get it without taking down the president or anything like that?

[nyRednek]

Originally Posted by The Sum of Awe

XD, I know, but let's say, hypothetically, many people wanted it, how exactly would you get it without taking down the president or anything like that?

an anarchist movement would have to take down more than the president. If the president dies, another takes his place. If enough die, the military will have the just cause to declare martial law in an interim between elections.

[gnomon]

Originally Posted by The Sum of Awe

So, does there have to be a candidate that will speak in terms for Anarchy, then will drop down as soon as elected, letting the country run freely? Or can you simply vote Anarchy now? I don't see why you can't vote Anarchy in any election because it shouldn't need a candidate, and it is always an option.

I believe that anarchy is a philosophical impossibility in human society.

Simply not voting for a candidate, which is the same as voting for no candidate, is meaningless. That's not anarchy. The notion of complete self direction in all things including economics and criminal justice is impossible by the definition of society. Only a complete societal breakdown could translate to true anarchy and within such a situation humans inevitably define a sense of economic and judicial order which defeats anarchy.

[4consideration]

Originally Posted by The Sum of Awe

So, does there have to be a candidate that will speak in terms for Anarchy, then will drop down as soon as elected, letting the country run freely? Or can you simply vote Anarchy now? I don't see why you can't vote Anarchy in any election because it shouldn't need a candidate, and it is always an option.

Is Anarchy possible in the US? Probably yes -- possibly.

Probability of accomplishing that through voting for it? Slim to none. With all the corruption in the political system, do you really think that someone would go through the time and expense to get elected, and then abdicate that power immediately after the election? Not likely.

I don't see why you can't vote Anarchy in any election because it shouldn't need a candidate, and it is always an option.[/quote]

Well, you can try voting in a candidate election for an idea without a candidate, but I have never seen it actually happen. Are you suggesting placing Anarchy on the ballot as a candidate?

I can see the initial appeal of the idea of Anarchy, if one does not take it any further in the logical process. I like the idea of complete freedom. I also like to hold the idea that at some point in time mankind will have reached a state of dedication to truth, understanding of the wisdom of honesty, the golden rule and all good things in general... but for now, I still use computer passwords and would not consider posting my checking account passwords on the internet. That tells me that I really do not think that mankind has reached the point where no government at all is needed. It seems that some people still want to violate others at this time, and there is a regular occurance of this.

Anarchy in general, as a response to a desire for freedom -- or as a reaction against oppression -- is asking for the pendulum to swing way too far in the opposite direction for my taste. If you think that oppression as we see it today is bad, what do you really think would happen when those who wish to dominate by brute, physical force have no opposition at all. This is currently held at bay in most communities by cohesive understanding and dedication to a sense of harmony within a community -- even if there are also some real problems there as well.

I, personally, would prefer to see the utmost freedom allowed, while retaining the social consciousness that it behooves us all to protect the innocent and maintain the rights of the individual. I do not see the need for us to choose only from the extremes.

[ScottySatan]

Originally Posted by The Sum of Awe

So, does there have to be a candidate that will speak in terms for Anarchy, then will drop down as soon as elected, letting the country run freely? Or can you simply vote Anarchy now? I don't see why you can't vote Anarchy in any election because it shouldn't need a candidate, and it is always an option.

Well, I think you get something very close to anarchy in the very rural areas, where there's no local cop, no mayor, no government. It's too far from any major highway for state police to bother stopping by. People get along really well because there's no real social inequality, everyone's got a gun, and everyone's your cousin. Most of New Mexico's like that.

[Heathen Hammer]

No. Anarchy is not a viable political idea.