No Prayer Allowed? (America, worship, God, Christian, Christ)

[fromthe heart]

I saw on the news that the same guy that wanted 'Under God" taken out of the pledge is at it again. Now he doesn't want a prayer at the innauguration ceremony. Now... I know this could be a big deal to some but since this is Bush's ceremony shouldn't he be the one with the say as to what goes on? I have to wonder if this guy would like it much if he had a ceremony and the president said that he MUST PRAY. Isn't this deal the same in both directions? What do all of you think? Is this guy just wanting attention in these petions to the courts?

[Sunstone]

I have no problem with an inagural prayer. Maybe I need more coffee this morning before considering this issue, but I don't think an inagural prayer is quite the same thing legally as the question of whether "under god" should be in the pledge. Just my caffeine deprived thoughts on the matter.

[fromthe heart]

Originally Posted by Sunstone

I have no problem with an inagural prayer. Maybe I need more coffee this morning before considering this issue, but I don't think an inagural prayer is quite the same thing legally as the question of whether "under god" should be in the pledge. Just my caffeine deprived thoughts on the matter.

I only refered to this because this was the guys LAST complaint...I agree they aren't the same. I just don't see where this guy get's off being offended by this...So don't watch the inauguration if the prayer offends you.

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by fromthe heart

I only refered to this because this was the guys LAST complaint...I agree they aren't the same. I just don't see where this guy get's off being offended by this...So don't watch the inauguration if the prayer offends you.

A Christian prayer at the inauguration means that the ceremony for the beginning of the presidential term is seeking favor from a Christian God. May Americans would be offended by that symbolic act.

[fromthe heart]

Originally Posted by pah

A Christian prayer at the inauguration means that the ceremony for the beginning of the presidential term is seeking favor from a Christian God. May Americans would be offended by that symbolic act.

I understand that point but if you have a Christian president then why not...if he was president worshiping Buddah I wouldn't object to a ceremony reflecting that either. Is it fair to ask is there too much emphasis put on some things to be politically correct? No matter what the situation isn't someone always going to take exception to something?

[Sunstone]

Personally, I don't think god listens to Bush, anyway. So, Bush's inagural prayer is likely wasted. Maybe he should sacrifice a lamb instead and read it's entrails.

[retrorich]

I think that prayer has no place in government. Period.

[cfer]

Originally Posted by pah

A Christian prayer at the inauguration means that the ceremony for the beginning of the presidential term is seeking favor from a Christian God. May Americans would be offended by that symbolic act.

I don't see any problem with it. It's not like they're ramming the prayer down anyone's throat. If you want to join in the prayer, go ahead. If you don't want to, don't. It's that simple. They're not persecuting anyone who doesn't join in the prayer.

Also, who's to say that Bush isn't praying to his God to give him guidance? Shouldn't everyone be allowed to ask their own personal god for guidance and assistance if they want to? If my god were the almighty computer, wouldn't it be my right to ask for the PCAlmighty to grant me 1s and 0s so that I might lead properly and make difficult decisions?

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by fromthe heart

I understand that point but if you have a Christian president then why not...if he was president worshiping Buddah I wouldn't object to a ceremony reflecting that either. Is it fair to ask is there too much emphasis put on some things to be politically correct? No matter what the situation isn't someone always going to take exception to something?

No, you do not understand the point. No public government ceremony should have ANY faith attached.

It is NOT a matter of political correctness but a fundamental right to hold or not to hold a faith of one's choice and not to be subjected to someone else's faith.

[Bright-ness' Shadow]

Originally Posted by cfer

I don't see any problem with it. It's not like they're ramming the prayer down anyone's throat. If you want to join in the prayer, go ahead. If you don't want to, don't. It's that simple. They're not persecuting anyone who doesn't join in the prayer.

Also, who's to say that Bush isn't praying to his God to give him guidance? Shouldn't everyone be allowed to ask their own personal god for guidance and assistance if they want to? If my god were the almighty computer, wouldn't it be my right to ask for the PCAlmighty to grant me 1s and 0s so that I might lead properly and make difficult decisions?

Why would you see a problem with a Christian prayer? It suits you doesn't it?

I should not have to watch a president elected by non-christians have an invocation uttered in the name of Christ. That IS ramming the prayer down anyone's throat.

Let Bush prayer on his own time and not the government's time.