Why do people think "Patriotism" is "Hate-riotism"? (America) - Page 13

Scuba Pete · #**121** 05-19-2008, 08:56 AM

Ok... the use of the word "Islamofascist" is another example of hatriotism. It's bigoted and even racist.

Joe Stocks · #**122** 05-19-2008, 11:30 AM

Hi Scuba,

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Ok... the use of the word "Islamofascist" is another example of hatriotism. It's bigoted and even racist.

Show exactly how the term 'Islamofascist' is bigoted and racist.

Scuba Pete · #**123** 05-19-2008, 11:53 AM

It unfairly ties Islam to fascism. How would you respond to the terms "JudeoNazi" or "Christobigot"? These would be used only to demean an entire religion or race which is part and parcel the actions of a hatriot. It's unfortunate that you can't recognize such bigotry for what it is. It speaks VOLUMES.

Now take the term "hatriot"... it does not target any specific religion or ethnic group. The Republican Hate Machine comes closer, but it's in reference to the Republican Leadership and their multiple smear campaigns. It still fails to paint an entire religion or ethnicity as having some sort of character flaw.

I believe you used the term to cover those who murdered kids going to school. I would hasten that this would include ANYONE who voted or supported Shrub. Unfortunately, our military have killed far more civilians than combatants and they have done it at the behest of those who did indeed vote for Shrub and who continue to support his actions. That would make YOU an Islamofascist, would it not?

Joe Stocks · #**124** 05-19-2008, 12:09 PM

Hi Scuba,

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It unfairly ties Islam to fascism. How would you respond to the terms "JudeoNazi" or "Christobigot"? These would be used only to demean an entire religion or race which is part and parcel the actions of a hatriot. It's unfortunate that you can't recognize such bigotry for what it is. It speaks VOLUMES.

It actually fairly links Muslims who are fascists. If you ran into a Christian that wanted to have the state control every aspect of society, then you could call that person a Christofascists or a similar term and you would be accurate.

Do you actually deny that there are Muslim fascists?

Alceste · #**125** 05-19-2008, 02:04 PM

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Hi Scuba,If you ran into a Christian that wanted to have the state control every aspect of society, then you could call that person a Christofascists or a similar term and you would be accurate.

Whoah, Pete, I think he's finally talking about the neo-cons!

Joe Stocks · #**126** 05-19-2008, 05:02 PM

I would ask you a question Alceste, but I'm alfraid you would leave the discussion.

Alceste · #**127** 05-19-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Stocks

I would ask you a question Alceste, but I'm alfraid you would leave the discussion.

You can ask me a question if you like. I'll only leave the discussion if I answer it and then you keep asking the same question over and over again. That's boring.

Joe Stocks · #**128** 05-19-2008, 06:00 PM

Hi Alceste,

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You can ask me a question if you like.

How are neoconservatives fascists?

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I'll only leave the discussion if I answer it and then you keep asking the same question over and over again. That's boring.

More like when you make a blatantly false statement and can't back it up.

Scuba Pete · #**129** 05-19-2008, 06:18 PM

Here is the definition of fascism from Dictionary.com

1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

Here it is again, and in case you missed it, I have carefully emboldened the most striking similarities between Neo-Conservatives (as defined by the Shrub led War Mongering Hatriots)and fascism as we have come to know and love it:

1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.