If China overthrew the Burma government in the name of establishing a democratic government... (tradition, America)

[greatcalgarian]

China, the dragon that keeps breathing new life into the absurdly corrupt and incompetent cabal of generals running the place, is apparently too hungry for energy to say no to the natural gas piped in from neighbouring Burma.

China has traditionally opposed notions of interference in the internal affairs of any country, however loathsome the regime.

BBC NEWS | Americas | Washington diary: Bush on Burma

US invaded Iraq on the pretext of removing Sadam (no more WMD now), but the actual reason is the control of oil there,

and, what would say if the same motive is used and China invaded Burma, threw the whole country into a mess, on the pretext of removing the dictatorial regime, but acutal reason is for the control of gas there, would you support China's action?

This is hypothetical, as China way of working around to get the gas is to negotiate with the regime to try to make it change without actual physically exerting muscles and invading an independent country and overthrew the legitimate government.

[rojse]

China cannot claim to be installing democracy, because they are a totalitarian reigeme.

[Buttercup]

I think it would be pretty obvious what China's motive was concerning an invasion.

I don't see the correlation between Iraq (I opposed the war from the start)and a hypothetical invasion by the Chinese of Burma.

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by GC

US invaded Iraq on the pretext of removing Sadam (no more WMD now), but the actual reason is the control of oil there,

and, what would say if the same motive is used and China invaded Burma, threw the whole country into a mess, on the pretext of removing the dictatorial regime, but acutal reason is for the control of gas there, would you support China's action?

Of course not.

Why do you ask such a strange question?

[yossarian22]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

but the actual reason is the control of oil there,

Do people actually believe this? The point of invading Iraq was not oil-we can get that from dozens of other areas-but to create a pro-US western government in the Middle East.
Also, I doubt China would set up an actual democratic government. Maybe something similar to the farces that were the Soviet elections

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by yossarian22

Do people actually believe this? The point of invading Iraq was not oil-we can get that from dozens of other areas-but to create a pro-US western government in the Middle East.
Also, I doubt China would set up an actual democratic government. Maybe something similar to the farces that were the Soviet elections

So you believe the reasons invasion of Iraq were:

(1) There was WMD, dangerous to the rest of the world
(2) Sadam Hussein was a bad dictator, and must be removed by the world police the USA
(3) America must teach everyone else democracy, and the only way is to invade Iraq and establish democracy with the guns pointing at the citizens of Iraq?

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by Buttercup

I think it would be pretty obvious what China's motive was concerning an invasion.

I don't see the correlation between Iraq (I opposed the war from the start)and a hypothetical invasion by the Chinese of Burma.

China will not invade Burma. This is a hypothetical situation, where I say that for oil or gas, we can invade a country on the pretext of setting up a democratic government, or liberating the people there from a military regime and so on.

So what is wrong with this analogy?

(1) US has oil interest in Iraq. Iraq is turning to URO $, contracts are up for renewal, and Iraq is considering awarding contract to Russia, France, Germany and China, and exclude UK and US. So US and UK invaded Iraq to overthrow the legal government, and now control all oil interest there. The contracts to be signed between Iraq and Russia and others gone down the drain. The invasion reasons were given as (a) dictarial regime (b) to introduce democracy there.

(2) China has gas interest in Burma. US and UK are instigating unrest there to overthrow the military regime to defeat the China from getting more gas. To protect China existing and future interest of gas in Burma, China invaded Burma to overthrow the military regime and installed another puppet regime that answer only to China (same as the current Iraq government). The invasion reasons were given as (a) dictatorial regime (b) to introduce democracy there.

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by Jaiket

Of course not.

Why do you ask such a strange question?

This is the same excuse US use to invade Iraq, so why China cannot use the same excuse to invade Burma?

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by rojse

China cannot claim to be installing democracy, because they are a totalitarian reigeme.

So only a democractic government like US can install democracy by destroying a whole country and in the end we still do not see any democractic government in Iraq?

[GeneCosta]

Anyone who thinks we wouldn't stifle reform if it challenged our oil supply in say Saudi Arabia need only refer to 1978. All beasts have the same face.