Intervention (moral, pray, bless, moral, God)

[Jaiket]

What is your knowledge about the morality, and legality of intervening in foreign countries' affairs?

What is the weight of justification required to topple a regime?

Should we invade (in principle at least) and remove totalitarian dictators?

For instance, while the WMD reasoning turned out to be deliberate lies, was the removal of Saddam Hussein sufficient cause for invading Iraq?

How should we support secular democratic movements? Should we?

[greatcalgarian]

There has hardly any war in the recent time that does not include economy interest of the invading nations. Moral, democracy, dictatorship etc are just decorating excuses.

If a country is week, and blessed with natural resources, just pray that God will not send one of the God-loving/fearing(?) countries to plunder that country. Amen.

Amen means YA right, nothing to do with religion.

[BM5]

Originally Posted by Jaiket

What is your knowledge about the morality, and legality of intervening in foreign countries' affairs?

What is the weight of justification required to topple a regime?

Should we invade (in principle at least) and remove totalitarian dictators?

For instance, while the WMD reasoning turned out to be deliberate lies, was the removal of Saddam Hussein sufficient cause for invading Iraq?

How should we support secular democratic movements? Should we?

You should get your government if you are US of A to recognize the international court for these questions to be decided upon. It is my understanding that Clinton was or would be indicted as a war criminal for the bombing of Yugoslavia for instance and the Bushe's have alot to answer to also.

So what makes you think that democracy isn't a smoke screen for a totalitarian regime which is running the US from the Federal Reserve for instance ? Maybe a look at history and JP Morgan might enlighten your concepts of reality.

Sadaam was a willing puppet of US policy, they put him in there and they took him out, the reason will be found in the Apoc. which shows how stupid the whole idea is and what suckers they are in the long run.

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

There has hardly any war in the recent time that does not include economy interest of the invading nations. Moral, democracy, dictatorship etc are just decorating excuses.

Is there no good reason to invade a foreign country, topple a regime etc?

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by Jaiket

Is there no good reason to invade a foreign country, topple a regime etc?

No. The only reason is that the invasion must bring 'good' to the country that is executing the invasion. Remember, the invading nation has to spend money and human life. So toppling a regime is with the final objective of getting something in return, definitely not out of good heart, and spread the goodness of democracy around.

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

No. The only reason is that the invasion must bring 'good' to the country that is executing the invasion. Remember, the invading nation has to spend money and human life. So toppling a regime is with the final objective of getting something in return, definitely not out of good heart, and spread the goodness of democracy around.

That doesn't answer my question.

Are there good reasons to invade a country or topple a regime, GC?

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by Jaiket

That doesn't answer my question.

Are there good reasons to invade a country or topple a regime, GC?

I thought I did. Okay, I shall try to be more specific, only one of the following reasons may justify that action:

(1) It is beyong reasonable doubt that that particular country A or regime is currently or going to post danger to your own country, causing your fellow citizen to suffer, either through direct military intervention or strangling your economy for example uniting with other countries to execute a sanction. A good recent example is USA (country A) working through United Nation to strangle Iran (Iran is then justified if she is capable to invade or topple US regime). A past example is USA creating satellite puppet regime to encircle China, including British colony of Hong Kong, Defeated ChiangKaiSek of Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, South Korea, Outer Mongolia, and Tibet.
(2) That country B is posting no immediate danger to your country, but you need to obtain the resources from that country B, and if you do not invade and control that country, you stand the risk of other countries obtaining the resources from country B, and then the other countries will be a danger to you as they will then control the world economy. This is the reason why US is invading the middle east countries.
(3) That country C, which previously is providing easy money to you now may turn around and will stop giving you that money, and wanted to be equal in treatment. Without that easy money, your fellow citizens are unable to enjoy good life, and the standard of living may then become the same as country C. So you invade that country. An example is US invasion of Panama.

Which one do you think is a good reason?
Which two are selfish and unjustified?

Good reason is for self defence.
Pre-emptive strike is not a good reason, especially based on forged evidences.
Keeping existing profit and exploitation and refusing to right the wrong previously done is also not a good reason.