Should a woman have to see a sonogram before receiving an abortion? (choice, faith)

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by bouggle

how can you call a baby an embryo? its a human being, just because its in the mothers womb doesnt mean its not alive!

Embryo is a perfectly acceptable biological term for a developing organism.

Do you realise how many fertilised eggs simply do not attach to the uterine wall after conception? Or how many women miscarry before they even know they are pregnant?Abortion is a natural event, the body (or God if you want to think of it that way) carries them out all the time.

Elective abortion is just the conscious decision to cause this natural event.

[bouggle]

Abortion is a not a natural event! Miscarriage is when the body gets rid of the baby due to the baby not being able to survive or something wrong with baby. An abortion is a choice you make, theres nothing natural about it! Having a miscarriage is not a choice you make, but an abortion is when you choose to kill the baby!!

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by bouggle

how can you call a baby an embryo? its a human being, just because its in the mothers womb doesnt mean its not alive!

Because I am not attempting an appeal to emotion word play argument.

From Stedmans Medical Dictionary
http://www.stedmans.com/section.cfm/45

fetus

1. The unborn young of a viviparous animal following the embryonic period.
2. [NA] In humans, the product of conception from the end of the eighth week to the moment of birth.

embryo

1. An organism in the early stages of development.
2. In humans, the developing organism from conception until approximately the end of the second month; developmental stages from this time to birth are commonly designated as fetal.
3. A primordial plant within a seed.

baby

An infant, a newborn child

infant

A child younger than 1 year of age; more specifically, a newborn baby

[bouggle]

Ok i know thats the scientific term, but i just dont like the way people dont refer to it as a baby

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by bouggle

Ok i know thats the scientic term, but i just dont like the way people dont refer to it as a baby

I do not know what to tell you.
The term 'baby' being used before birth is just not correct.

[bouggle]

thats your opinion,and this is my opinion

[Ðanisty]

Originally Posted by bouggle

i dont agree with abortion at all! a baby has a heart the minute its concieved. calling it a fuetus is a horrible word, but seems to be used to make people think its not a baby yet.

Fetus is a scientific term that applies to more than just humans.

if they really dont want a baby, they can easily give it up for adoption when the child is born, so that baby can have a life and not get its life snatched away from it, when it has no choice!

Easily? I wouldn't say it's easy to have a baby and it especially isn't easy to have a baby you don't want.

Originally Posted by bouggle

how can you call a baby an embryo? its a human being, just because its in the mothers womb doesnt mean its not alive!

Nobody has ever suggested, to my knowledge, that embryos aren't alive.

Originally Posted by bouggle

Abortion is a not a natural event! Miscarriage is when the body gets rid of the baby due to the baby not being able to survive or something wrong with baby. An abortion is a choice you make, theres nothing natural about it! Having a miscarriage is not a choice you make, but an abortion is when you choose to kill the baby!!

A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion.

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by bouggle

Abortion is a not a natural event! Miscarriage is when the body gets rid of the baby due to the baby not being able to survive or something wrong with baby.

Not at all. Some perfectly normal fetuses are aborted without any obvious cause. Also many detach due to bumps to the uterus, or even nutrient deficiencies on the mother's part.
And like i said above, there is a good chance that after the egg is fertilised in the fallopian tube, it will simple flow straight out of the body, not attaching to the uterine lining at all.

Originally Posted by bouggle

An abortion is a choice you make, theres nothing natural about it! Having a miscarriage is not a choice you make, but an abortion is when you choose to kill the baby!!

True. An abortion is a conscious choice made by the mother, or both parents, and can be for a variety of reasons ranging from problems with the mother's health and/or the fetuses health to financial circumstances that would cause the parents and child to have a poor quality of life.

People vary rarely, if ever, have an abortion through malicious intent, it cannot be compared to murder. Especially since most abortions occur when the fetus has no form of nervous system, and so cannot feel pain nor has any thoughts/emotions and, most importantly, cannot survive outside the mother.

I respect your right to believe life begins at conception, but i must disagree with your attitude that abortion is disgusting and wrong - what is wrong is to force people to conform to your beliefs via disturbing methods like this forced sonogram.

[michel]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Are abortion clinics telling women the truth that their fetus is just a few cells?

Should women have to look at the sonogram to make an informed decision?

This is an extremely emotive subject. There are so many "variables" that need definition (and agreement on the definitions) by all before one can even begin to construct a "Rule book" - and that Rule book could never be hard and fast; there must be individual decisions made, depending on the case in question.

My belief, that a fetus is a form of life from the moment of conception is not one I should imagine many would subscribe to. I am a pro-lifer, and yet I would never take it on myself to ever judge what someone else should do.

We all have free will, and it is upto every individual to decide on his own obligations and beliefs.

IMO, the law, and therefore the regulatory bodies that monitor abortions have, understandably, have to draw a line which separates one day from another for the viability of abortion.......and that type of "ruling" is never going to be "fair" in any case. I suppose I have to say that since the woman's body is the one in which the infant grows, it is up to her if and when she should abort; all I an say is "I thank God that my wife and I have never been put in the position of having had to make a decision........"

[Mestemia]

Originally Posted by bouggle

thats your opinion,and this is my opinion

It is not my opinion.
It is fact.