Do you think Pope is wise in making this statement even in quote? (ritual, America)

[Ody]

I have noted a double standard GC, when one such as the pope declares his message to be misinterpreted, you will not hear it, however when the president of Iran says so, your all ears.

[Ody]

For reference for this tedium.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,,1873277,00.html

[greatcalgarian]

Found the text, and I do not think the Pope has said he disagreed with the emperor:

In the seventh conversation (*4V8,>4H - controversy) edited by Professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. The emperor must have known that surah 2, 256 reads: "There is no compulsion in religion". According to the experts, this is one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under threat. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur'an, concerning holy war. Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the "Book" and the "infidels", he addresses his interlocutor with a startling brusqueness on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached". The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. "God", he says, "is not pleased by blood - and not acting reasonably (F×< 8`(T) is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death...".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...09_06_pope.pdf

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by ‡Âlãn‡

I have noted a double standard GC, when one such as the pope declares his message to be misinterpreted, you will not hear it, however when the president of Iran says so, your all ears.

Love is blind I love President of Iran

[GloriaPatri]

Jesus/Paul did not do anything evil or inhumane, and you are implying that Moahammed did do something evil or inhumane?

Yes, conquering the Arabian peninsula. He coerced the population into accepting Islam by forcing them to get rid of the pagan idols, etc.

[GloriaPatri]

Originally Posted by ‡Âlãn‡

I have noted a double standard GC, when one such as the pope declares his message to be misinterpreted, you will not hear it, however when the president of Iran says so, your all ears.

I never said anything about Iran. Don't put words in my mouth, please.

[GloriaPatri]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

Found the text, and I do not think the Pope has said he disagreed with the emperor:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...09_06_pope.pdf

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/2000486.cms

"The pope on Sunday apologised in person for the angry Muslim reaction to his comments on Islam. Benedict XVI added for good measure that his quote from a 14th century Christian Byzantine emperor about Prophet Mohammed and jehad didn’t reflect his personal opinion."

[kai]

Originally Posted by Djamila

Oh God, the fact that he quoted someone else is irrelevent to me. He still said it.

I am sorry you didnt understand his speech it was abou the responsibility and rationality of your actions and not laying the blame or responsaiblity on god, not an attack on Islam

If I wrote an article about the importance of an Islamic government and cited quotes from Arab leaders denouncing Kemal Mustafa Ataturk and the secular reforms he brought to Turkey, and then continued with my hypothesis that Islamic government is the only acceptable option... it would be common sense that I at least approved these quotes denouncing Kemal Mustafa Ataturk, if I didn't, why put them in the article? If they were an example of what I didn't believe, I would certainly frame these quotes as such - or else I've made a mockery of my entire speech.

And I'm just a normal, everyday woman. The Roman Catholic Pope, like all those in leadership positions, has even more responsibilities and is justified in being held to even higher expectations.

i think ist a missunderstanding he is very academic and his speech was not understood

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by GloriaPatri

Yes, conquering the Arabian peninsula. He coerced the population into accepting Islam by forcing them to get rid of the pagan idols, etc.

In China, those accepted Christianity were forced to get rid of their ancestor respect cutsom as well, getting rid of the pagan idols of the Chinese, by force actually....

Let us faced it, all religion at a certain stage or time did have unreligious behavior. I am not arguing Muslim or Islam, the entire population really practice Peace but nothing else. The question here is "Mohammed is nothing but evil and inhuman" that is unacceptable.
The Pope is calling Mohammed resorting to violenct to spread Islam as wrong, but has he looked at the Catholics in the early period when Constantine accepted Christianity?

This is the Pot calling the Kettle black, and I do not think he is doing a good lecture if what he is trying to do is to tell every one that preaching should be done in peace and not by force.

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by GloriaPatri

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/2000486.cms

"The pope on Sunday apologised in person for the angry Muslim reaction to his comments on Islam. Benedict XVI added for good measure that his quote from a 14th century Christian Byzantine emperor about Prophet Mohammed and jehad didn’t reflect his personal opinion."

Thanks for the link. Hope this will settle the issue and bring peace to interfaith. God bless.