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Old 09-24-2006, 01:30 PM
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Good job Kai,

Why did these battles take place? and in what circumstances? Were people forced to accept Islam? I think You'll find that 'no' answers the later question, as for the former questions keep reading.
here is a summary of the battle of badr
The Battle of Badr took place between the Quraish and the Muslims near the Well of Badr, which was located near Mecca. The Prophet decided that interrupting the trade of the Quraish would be an effective counterattack to their aggression against Muslims. He commanded the capture of a Quraish trade caravan passing near Medina, but the leader of the caravan, Abu Sufyan, managed to escape and called for assistance. The Quraish gathered over one thousand soldiers who marched north to confront the Muslims at Badr. Though the army of the Quraish was three times the size of the Muslim army, they were defeated and the Muslims achieved a glorious victory.
source:http://dictionary.al-islam.com/ENG/D...20&RDF=1&DI=68

what is you unique selling point, i am not sure what you are saying ?
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Old 09-24-2006, 02:21 PM
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amazing to think he won those battles without a sword
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i have been studying the history

the battle of badr
the battle of the trench
the battle of uhud
the battle of Quraizhah
the battle of mutah

the sword would be a major factor in these battles no!
kai, are you serious? Would you rocammand to use a knife or a stick to defend themselves against a well trained and strong army.

I really have no idea what you are talking about, seriously !!!

At that time all were using swords, you know that isn't it?
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Old 09-24-2006, 02:31 PM
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I actually think that Muslims have acted OK over the Pope incident. It's the crap that we see below that they come out with here and there that turns me off real quick.

Oh my, such a thing always happen and not ony within Muslims but others as well.

When i heard what the Pope said in the news, it was normal. What do you expect from such a person. I was drinking my tea and watching what his next step would be !!!

My friend suggested that, if he apologized so it gonna be like hell for many christians catholics out there. Nevertheless, if he didn't so the whole world would criticize him. Therefore, he just was struggling to make it straight in the middle between both of these two.

I didn't see people protesting in here.

Just because few people did that in these pictures so that means more than 1 billion Muslims will be painted the same was as those?

Oh man, i'm being tired of the double standard held by some people in here.
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Old 09-24-2006, 04:09 PM
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Oh my, such a thing always happen and not ony within Muslims but others as well.
Yes , I agree . That is what happens when religion , ANY RELIGION becomes political ....

And I have no doubt that what the Pope said was well planned ... politics again . However , I have no idea what he hoped to accomplish by saying it . But I don't think that it accomplished what they had hoped for .
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Old 09-24-2006, 05:36 PM
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As the spiritual leader of one of the world's major religions, he should really be very careful to bring the quote from the 14th century emperor to illustrate his point of view.
Either he is dumb, or he did it on purpose to create a diversion for the political situation of the world currently being bogged down by GB war of terror, which has been interpreted by most people now as "war on Islam". The the Pope would like to drag the millions and billions of Catholics into this muddy water...... sad
It reminds me of the cartoon episode....
why should he be carfull in what he says? why should he not be relentless and harsh in his words about the holly war? i agree with him far more than i agree with the farce that is the holly war. how is it holly to kill people? maim people? it is not! at the end of the day he is free to express his views as we all are, albeit on a higher platform then most of us will ever get to speak from!
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Old 09-24-2006, 06:37 PM
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why should he be carfull in what he says? why should he not be relentless and harsh in his words about the holly war? i agree with him far more than i agree with the farce that is the holly war. how is it holly to kill people? maim people? it is not! at the end of the day he is free to express his views as we all are, albeit on a higher platform then most of us will ever get to speak from!
Actually , there are limitations to all rights . Even the so-called right of " Freedom of Speech ".

But my question is how is hate any holier then war ?
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why should he be carfull in what he says? why should he not be relentless and harsh in his words about the holly war? i agree with him far more than i agree with the farce that is the holly war. how is it holly to kill people? maim people? it is not! at the end of the day he is free to express his views as we all are, albeit on a higher platform then most of us will ever get to speak from!
For people in that high position, responsibility is there. Any action that resulted in uprising and disturbances is then deemed bad for those in that position.
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:17 PM
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kai, are you serious? Would you rocammand to use a knife or a stick to defend themselves against a well trained and strong army.

I really have no idea what you are talking about, seriously !!!

At that time all were using swords, you know that isn't it?
TT the post was for Liala who said there wasnt any use of the sword!
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