Why does MSM now report on conspiracy? (morals, attend, America)

[greatcalgarian]

MAINSTREAM MEDIA GETTING DESPERATE OVER SO-CALLED ‘CONSPIRACY THEORIES’!


It’s good to see at long last that the mainstream media (MSM) are beginning to publish articles about the so-called ‘conspiracy theories’ that surround the events of 9/11 – even if they are in an attempt to debunk them. It means that if the MSM is going to so much trouble to debunk them then the truth about what really happened that fateful day is finally beginning to emerge into the public domain and that the western governments who have an interest in maintaining the façade of the ‘official version’ of events are becoming worried that their story is coming apart at the seams.

Of course, the present spate of articles in the MSM are designed to reinforce the statements that President Bush recently made when trying to shore up his support for the continued ‘war against terror’.[1]

In one recent article in the UK Telegraph by Michael Shelden one can almost sense the desperation in his narrative as he tries to dissuade readers from believing the claims of Dr. Steven E. Jones, the university physics professor from Utah who is a leading light in the 9/11 Scholars for Truth movement, that the twin towers of the World Trade Center could not have collapsed solely because aircraft had crashed in to them and that, therefore, there must have been some kind of conspiracy involved in order that a secondary cause for the towers collapse could be effected. Shelden doesn’t attempt to debunk Jones’ assertion but, instead, tries to belittle Jones by referring to some of Jones’ other non-related theories about religious characters in Mexican history, etc.[2]

Then there is Alexander Cockburn’s attempt to do a similar job on Dr. David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor.[3] Cockburn in his piece in The Nation attempts to frame Griffin’s synopsis of what happened on 9/11 within the notion that Griffin has a “…devout, almost preposterous belief in American efficiency”, inadvertently inferring that it was American inefficiency that allowed the attacks to happen.[4]

Meanwhile, Abraham H. Foxman of the pro right-wing Zionist Anti-Defamation League writes, predictably, in the Jewish News Weekly of Northern California that conspiracy theories about 9/11 are anti-Semitic. He bases this assertion on the fact that it was reported that many Israeli employees at the WTC did not attend work that day because they had been warned of the possibility of an attack. “This outrageous lie”, Foxman says, “took off like wildfire and became the centerpiece of the conspiracy theory that is accepted by millions of people in the Islamic world, and others around the globe, that it was Israel and the Jews, not al Qaida, that perpetrated the terrorist event of Sept. 11, 2001.”[5] We need, so Foxman seems to think, to know this because not only have millions of people in the Islamic world got a few doubts about the official version of events but now so have millions of people throughout the western world and, indeed, in growing numbers across the US. The latest figures show that over a third of Americans now believe that there is a lot more to the 9/11 story than the official government version would have us believe as the new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll shows.[6]

The governments of the coalition of the willing and their compliant and supportive mainstream media are getting worried. We can expect to see a lot more of these types of articles appearing in the MSM trying desperately to debunk so-called ‘conspiracy theories’ and, of course, the more they try then the more likelihood there is that people that were previously not interested in conspiracy theories and were content with the official version will now be wondering if there isn’t something in these stories after all!
http://lataan.blogspot.com/2006/09/m...desperate.html

[greatcalgarian]

This is one of the recent MSM in an attempt to discredit the conspiracy theorist:

See how cleverly the article link Steven Jones to the LDS believe and his solar cooker to discredit his credential as a scientist. This line will be used by the BYU under the pressure of CIA to fire Jones. That is the prediction of GC

[Terrywoodenpic]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

This is one of the recent MSM in an attempt to discredit the conspiracy theorist:

See how cleverly the article link Steven Jones to the LDS believe and his solar cooker to discredit his credential as a scientist. This line will be used by the BYU under the pressure of CIA to fire Jones. That is the prediction of GC

Why any one would want believe these conspiracy theories I don't know.

We all saw this happen in real time on the news.

as to who did it... there was evidence as to who they were from the early days.

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

Why any one would want believe these conspiracy theories I don't know.

We all saw this happen in real time on the news.

as to who did it... there was evidence as to who they were from the early days.

Obviously you have not read any of David Ray Griffin's work or Steven Jones work or Michel Chossudovsky writings on global research. You may want to start on the recent one:
Where was Osama on September 11, 2001?
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...articleId=3194
Michel Chossudovsky is a politically left inclined academician, and I do not think you can classify him as one of those conspiracy nuts.
Michel Chossudovsky is a Canadian economist. He is a professor of economics at the University of Ottawa.
Chossudovsky has taught as visiting professor at academic institutions in Western Europe, Latin America and Southeast Asia, has acted as economic adviser to governments of developing countries and has worked as a consultant for international organizations including the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), the African Development Bank, the United Nations African Institute for Economic Development and Planning (AIEDEP), the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), the International Labour Organization (ILO), the World Health Organisation (WHO), the United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC). In 1999, Chossudovsky joined the Transnational Foundation for Peace and Future Research as an adviser.
Chossudovsky is past president of the Canadian Association of Latin American and Caribbean Studies. He is a member of research organisations that include the Committee on Monetary and Economic Reform (COMER), the Geopolitical Drug Watch (OGD) (Paris)and the International People's Health Council (IPHC).
He is an active member of the anti-war movement in Canada, has written extensively on the war in Yugoslavia, and has been involved in the propagation of alternate theories regarding the September 11 terrorist attacks.[1] He is a frequent contributor to Le Monde diplomatique, Third World Resurgence and Covert Action Quarterly. His publications have been translated into more than twenty languages. His latest book is titled America's "War on Terrorism".
He is editor for the Centre for Research on Globalization, which operates a website at globalresearch.ca. The Centre for Research on Globalization states to be "committed to curbing the tide of "globalisation" and "disarming" the New World Order". The center's latest stories are on Iran: The Nest War? (September 2006).

[Terrywoodenpic]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

Obviously you have not read any of David Ray Griffin's work or Steven Jones work or Michel Chossudovsky writings on global research. You may want to start on the recent one:

I never read any ones conspiracy theories. about anything.
Nor do I see the Tv shows or Films.

[Faint]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

I never read any ones conspiracy theories. about anything.
Nor do I see the Tv shows or Films.

Why not? Isn't faith worth questioning? Here we have people who believe so strongly that the American government would never consider such a thing as killing it's own citizens...but wars and past cover-ups would tell us otherwise.

Seems to me that it's not a bad idea to at least read some of the theories and form your own opinion based on evidence presented rather than accept one version unquestionably.

Some more things to consider:
1) The mainstream media rarely (if ever) gives you full story.
2) The American government has knowingly killed it's own citizens in the past, is currently allowing them to die, and probably will kill more in the future.
3) The powers-that-be have other agendas aside from the life and liberty of small groups of individual citizens.
4) Big lies are easily believed.
5) Humans can rationalize just about anything if their morals aren't up to par.
6) Some people in power have gained big money from 9/11.

With all these things in mind, a 9/11 conspiracy is not only possible, but also plausible. Whether or not there IS a conspiracy is open for debate. My point is it's wise to at least consider both sides of an issue.

[CaptainXeroid]

The mainstream media will report on ANYTHING that it thinks will attract viewers. Whether it's Tom Cruise jumping on a couch or Britney Spear's panties visible above her sweat pants or the latest crackpot conspiracy theory. I even have a special file cabinet for them.

Originally Posted by Faint

...5) Humans can rationalize just about anything if their morals aren't up to par...

This would explain almost all conspiracy theories and the people who perpetuate them.

[Ryan2065]

Originally Posted by Faint

With all these things in mind, a 9/11 conspiracy is not only possible, but also plausible. Whether or not there IS a conspiracy is open for debate. My point is it's wise to at least consider both sides of an issue.

Hijacking a plane and running it into the pentagon would have been enough for the US to launch this whole middle east thing... Attacking the twin towers would not have been needed in order to spark the war on terror. This is the most compelling evidence for me that the US government was not behind 9/11.

[Faint]

Originally Posted by Ryan2065

Hijacking a plane and running it into the pentagon would have been enough for the US to launch this whole middle east thing... Attacking the twin towers would not have been needed in order to spark the war on terror. This is the most compelling evidence for me that the US government was not behind 9/11.

I disagree. Several thousand innocent civilians getting killed tends to rile people up more than an attack on a military target.

But on that note, if the government has the ability to spin the media to suit its own ends, I'm not entirely sure the deaths would really have been necessary at all. They could have done some "Wag The Dog" thing, or a relatively smaller Operation Northwood false flag scenario. I do wonder though--if 9/11 hadn't happened--how accepting would the american public have been of any premptive strikes in Afghanistan or Iraq?

Originally Posted by C.X.

This would explain almost all conspiracy theories and the people who perpetuate them.

It may be so. But the idea goes both ways of course. What I'm saying is the 9/11 conspiracy is not unreasonable. It's a bad idea to be close-minded in matters concerning our behind-the-scenes government.

To quote the punk rockers: Question authority.

[Ryan2065]

Originally Posted by Faint

I disagree. Several thousand innocent civilians getting killed tends to rile people up more than an attack on a military target.

But on that note, if the government has the ability to spin the media to suit its own ends, I'm not entirely sure the deaths would really have been necessary at all. They could have done some "Wag The Dog" thing, or a relatively smaller Operation Northwood false flag scenario. I do wonder though--if 9/11 hadn't happened--how accepting would the american public have been of any premptive strikes in Afghanistan or Iraq?

You don't think the pentagon being attacked is enough cause to go to war? Its a direct attack on American soil... The American public wouldn't stand for that! Espically with the spin they could put on it in the media! Truth of the matter is, if America thinks another country can and will attack us then they wouldn't quite mind the military going into that country to show them who's boss.

**Edit** Look at Pearl Harbor... That was an attack on a military base that wasn't even in the United States (Hawaii wasn't a state at the time). People back home just heard that some random base out in the pacific was attacked and they were all ready to go to war.