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Old 09-08-2006, 01:17 AM
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Instead of playing the role of world police, and guardian of democracy, it is perhaps more important for the American to clean their own house:

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MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (AP) -- An 11-year-old girl was sexually assaulted by as many as 20 boys as a 16-year-old girl watched and told her what sex acts to perform, authorities say in the latest mob attack to rock Milwaukee and set off another round of civic soul-searching.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/09/0....ap/index.html

And read the details described in CNN....
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:36 AM
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Instead of playing the role of world police, and guardian of democracy, it is perhaps more important for the American to clean their own house:



http://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/09/0....ap/index.html

And read the details described in CNN....
Thanks for bringing that disgusting little tidbit to our attention.

Milwaukee has been infested with drug lords and gangs for a long time. This tragic crime was likely gang related, and is obviously not reflective of what one would normally experience as typical 'Life in These United States".

Of course one of the pitfalls of living in a free society is having to contend with crime and domestic violence within the limitations of a legal structure which is sometimes compromised by zealots -- who would rather handcuff the police than risk even the slightest possibility of violating someone's constitutional rights.

Sorry, but as to how this incident relates directly to our role as an international superpower constantly called upon to lend military support and economic aid to weaker nations is beyond me.

At least in this country child rape is illegal. And rape is still punishable by law WITHOUT the testimony of "four adult men" as eyewitnesses.
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Given human nature GC, any society is going to have people in it who do evil things, and that will be especially true of a large society like America. For every evil act in this society, there are probably thousands of acts of kindness, compassion, generosity, etc. Yet you choose to point out one horrendous act and call all of America sick. Do you think that's reasonable?
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:42 AM
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Milwaukee has been infested with drug lords and gangs for a long time.
Not too mention some of the unethical actions of the police department along with corruption in the department as well. Here's just one recent incident:

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The acquittal of three white former police officers in a beating has brought hundreds of protesters into Milwaukee's streets.

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Prosecutors had accused the officers of beating a biracial man because they thought he stole a badge at a party.

An all-white jury returned not guilty verdicts on all but one charge against the three last Friday. The jury reached no verdict on the single charge against one of the officers. A county prosecutor says he plans to retry the officer on that charge.
http://www.wane.com/Global/story.asp?S=4785185&nav=0RYb

There has been much outrage over this.
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...it is perhaps more important for the American to clean their own house...
To present this incident as evidence that America needs to 'clean their own house' is a sick and pathetic exercise in intellectual dishonesty.

Frubals to Moon Woman and Sunstone for pointing out the obvious in challenging this drivel.
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To present this incident as evidence that America needs to 'clean their own house' is a sick and pathetic exercise in intellectual dishonesty.

Frubals to Moon Woman and Sunstone for pointing out the obvious in challenging this drivel.
Yes... I wonder if we should get rid of things like freedom of press and due process and systematically kill people like this without anyone knowing.
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Yes... I wonder if we should get rid of things like freedom of press and due process and systematically kill people like this without anyone knowing.
Well...I wouldn't advocate it, but I'm sure some people would. Perhaps if the good people of Milwaukee handled the 20 boys and the 16 year old girl in this manner, that would qualify understand the thread starter's challenge to 'clean house'.
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Instead of playing the role of world police, and guardian of democracy, it is perhaps more important for the American to clean their own house:



http://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/09/0....ap/index.html

And read the details described in CNN....
I have just one thingto say to you, GC; "Evil is in the eye of the beholder; why don't you focus on good rather than on evil deeds?" (which is much the same reply as Sunstone's).

What I am trying to say is "If you crawl through sewers long enough, you are bound to come across a rat. So why bother with the sewers? Why don't you take a walk through the countryside, and focus on the animals and the plants?"
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