Here we go again, Bin Ladin news near to 5th anniverary of 9/11 (Jesus Christ, blood)

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by greatcalgarian

Fox news conspiracy?


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34440,00.html
Wiki also reported the following:

On September 28, 2001, the Karachi-based The Daily Ummat published an interview with bin Laden [1][2] and quotes him as saying the following:


... I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other human beings as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. ... Whoever committed the act of September 11 are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, common American people have been killed. ... The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology can survive. They may be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. ... Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from Congress and the government every year. This was not a big problem until the existence of the ex-Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So, they first started propaganda against Osama and the Talibans and then this incident happened. ...


As in this site:
Who was behind 9/11? – an interview with Osama Bin Laden

By The Daily Ummat of Karachi

Daily Ummat:You have been accused of involvement in the attacks on New York and Washington. What do you want to say about this?<FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">

It seems then that bin Laden had a change of heart.

The following is from the holy wiki -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

In 1998, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, (a leader of Egyptian Islamic Jihad), co-signed a fatwa (binding religious edict) in the name of the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, declaring:


"[t]he ruling to kill the Americans and their allies civilians and military - is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem) and the holy mosque (in Makka) from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, 'and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,' and 'fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah'. [19]

In response to the 1998 United States embassy bombings following the fatwa, President Bill Clinton ordered a freeze on assets that could be linked to bin Laden. Clinton also signed an executive order, authorizing bin Laden's arrest or assassination. In August 1998, the U.S. launched an attack using cruise missiles. The attack failed to harm bin Laden but killed 19 other people.[20]"


On June 8, 1998 a United States grand jury indicted Osama Bin Laden on charges of killing five Americans and two Indians in the 13 November 1995 truck bombing of a US-operated Saudi National Guard training center in Riyadh[21]. Bin Laden was charged with "conspiracy to attack defense utilities of the United States" and prosecutors further charged that bin Laden is the head of the terrorist organization called al Qaeda, and that he was a major financial backer of Islamic terrorists worldwide.[21] Bin Laden denied involvement but praised the attack.

On November 4, 1998 Osama Bin Laden was indicted by a Federal Grand Jury in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, on charges of Murder of U.S. Nationals Outside the United States, Conspiracy to Murder U.S. Nationals Outside the United States, and Attacks on a Federal Facility Resulting in Death[11] for his alleged role in the 1998 United States embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. The evidence against Bin Laden included courtroom testimony by former AL Qaeda members and satellite phone records [12][13].

Attempts at assassination and requests for the extradition of Bin Laden from the Taliban of Afghanistan were met with failure[14]. In 1999, U.S. President Bill Clinton convinced the United Nations to impose sanctions against Afghanistan in an attempt to force the Taliban to extradite him. The U.S. Department of State currently offers a $25 million reward for information leading directly to his apprehension or conviction [15].

[PureX]

"Here we go again, Bin Ladin news near to 5th anniverary of 9/11"

Well, we all like to revisit our past glories. Can't we just let an old man have his memories? *haha*

I expect as we get closer to the elections, we're going to see Bush trying real hard to relive his past "glory" of 9/11, too.

[angellous_evangellous]

That's the typical shoot and whine tactic of Middle Eastern terrorists. They shoot and then whine on and on about what happens next, which is typically a sound beating. What better than bin Laden to attack the United States, deny it, and then cry about the US trying to retaliate? It's nothing more than shoot and whine. We've seen it before, and we'll see it again.

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

That's the typical shoot and whine tactic of Middle Eastern terrorists. They shoot and then whine on and on about what happens next, which is typically a sound beating. What better than bin Laden to attack the United States, deny it, and then cry about the US trying to retaliate? It's nothing more than shoot and whine. We've seen it before, and we'll see it again.

Well if it wasn't for the simple fact that we have now seen Osama ADMIT to 9/11 a few times... I might entertain CG's hilarious theories.

[Ryan2065]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

Well if it wasn't for the simple fact that we have now seen Osama ADMIT to 9/11 a few times... I might entertain CG's hilarious theories.

His link says those tapes are a fake =)

[greatcalgarian]

Originally Posted by Ryan2065

Ah, sorry, it was late last night. I was saying that there are no credible news sources that say the Bin Ladin tape confessing to the attacks is wrong.

BBC did not actually say it, but have put a question mark to it??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1711288.stm

Then there is also a question of another audio tape as well on BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2526309.stm

And this shown the attempt to link Osama Al Qaeda to Sadam Iraq:
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/phon...aden_tape.html
where we now know from the horse's mouth (CIA) that Bush was pulling our legs when he claimed clear connection between the two.

But you are right, most of the refutings were done by all the famous conspiracy people, however, try to show their point of view is wrong?

A German TV show found that the White House's translation of the video was inaccurate and "manipulative". Bin Laden even praised two live 'hijackers' - Wail M. Alshehri and Salem Alhazmi. Why didn't he know the names of hijackers he personally chose?

The quality of the video was very poor and the authenticity of the tape was questioned. This annoyed President Bush:

"It is preposterous for anybody to think that this tape is doctored," he said during a brief photo opportunity with the prime minister of Thailand. "That's just a feeble excuse to provide weak support for an incredibly evil man." [CNN]

To be perfectly honest it is preposterous to suggest this videotape could be authentic, but lets have a look at it anyway. Here's 5 Osamas - which is the odd one out?

Even Mr Magoo would have to say that Osama 'E' stands out like a sore thumb, and this is the man confessing on the "lucky find" tape. Between the nose and the cheeks it is clear that this man is NOT Osama.

[greatcalgarian]

On December 27, 2001, a second video containing the pale skinned and very real Osama 'C' was broadcast on al Jazeera.

The "Gaunt Tape," so named because bin Laden is haggard and doesn't move his left arm, is believed to have been recorded around Nov. 19, 2001. In the tape, bin Laden refers to the U.S. bombing of a mosque in Khost "several days" earlier. The U.S. bombed a mosque in Khost on Nov. 16. Bin Laden does not move his left arm and his appearance is both gaunt and pale. [MSNBC]

So, this tape was made around ten days after the "lucky find" tape was reportedly made. Are we to believe that Osama's skin, hair and beard changed color in ten days?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6363306/

[greatcalgarian]

From this telegraph, I am confused, whether Bush want Osama to admit 9/11 or what??


US casts doubt on bin Laden's latest message
By Toby Harnden in Washington
(Filed: 28/12/2001)

OSAMA BIN LADEN heaped praise on 'the 19 students who shook the American empire' in the September 11 attacks in a chilling video shown in full last night by an Arab television station.
The recording was dismissed by the Bush administration yesterday as sick propaganda possibly designed to mask the fact the al-Qa'eda leader was already dead.
In the full version of the latest tape of the Saudi exile broadcast by the satellite channel al-Jazeera in Qatar, bin Laden called on Muslims to "concentrate on hitting the US economy with every available means" in the hope that "if their economy is finished they will become too busy to enslave oppressed people".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../28/wbin28.xml