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Old 05-31-2006, 01:36 AM
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...a minority is ruled.

Many say that since all the signers of the Constitution were Christian, this is a Christian country. However, they were all white males as well. Are we a White Male Country? – "bostnfound"

A constitution is the law governing government. – Wesley F. Deitchler

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[rant]What's wrong with the politics in this country?! Why don't people understand the stuff written here? Even if a majority decides, I'm still being dictated, just by a majority. Dictatorship by the majority is still a dictatorship.[/rant]
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:59 AM
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[rant]What's wrong with the politics in this country?! Why don't people understand the stuff written here? Even if a majority decides, I'm still being dictated, just by a majority. Dictatorship by the majority is still a dictatorship.[/rant]
are you saying majority rule is wrong/bad? say like, when the majority vote against some people havin equal rights...
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Old 05-31-2006, 04:38 AM
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Rule implies a sense of control over others. What about majority guidance?
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Rule implies a sense of control over others. What about majority guidance?
because a true democracy is majority rule, with every sense of control.
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...a minority is ruled.

Many say that since all the signers of the Constitution were Christian, this is a Christian country. However, they were all white males as well. Are we a White Male Country? – "bostnfound"

A constitution is the law governing government. – Wesley F. Deitchler

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin

If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all. – Jacob Hornberger

There are just two rules of governance in a free society: Mind your own business. Keep your hands to yourself. – P.J. O'Rourke

The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not sufficient warrant. – John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

[rant]What's wrong with the politics in this country?! Why don't people understand the stuff written here? Even if a majority decides, I'm still being dictated, just by a majority. Dictatorship by the majority is still a dictatorship.[/rant]
Sadly, our educational system has basically collapsed. Students today can't even find their own state on a map. They have no idea who the vice president is, and they certainly have no idea how our government works, or was intended to work by the founders. And sadder still, they don't care.

The lessons of the past, and the rights and freedom that have been gained through the struggle and sacrifice of preceeding generations has been squandered and ignored by a society that has come to worship material wealth. We're all too busy trying to get and keep "ours" to concern ourselves with issues like freedom and justice for all, anymore. We have let greed turn us all into selfish idiots, willing to squander greatness for a few shiney doo-dads.
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because a true democracy is majority rule, with every sense of control.
Has a true democracy ever existed?
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me = anarchist I know, I know... it's impossible. But so was everything we ever imagined til we did it.
I was an anarchist once also (in my student days). Have you ever read 'The Dispossessed' by Ursula le Guin? If not, I'd suggest reading it (so long as you aren't violently opposed to SF). It's a great book and a clear warning of the perils of anarchism (though le Guin is certainly sympathetic to the ideal). I seriously doubt that any of the Utopian political or economic ideologies will ever actually work, at least not so long as we're talking about human society. That doesn't mean that aiming for the ideals can't be worthwhile, though.

James

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It also does a good job of criticising both authoritarian communist and capitalist ideologies. It's not at all one-sided.
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