Do you want to see what you are not showen on TV? (Israel, islam)

[michel]

Originally Posted by Orichalcum

This shows why the world is such a terrible place.

Really makes me sad.

The world is not a terrible place. Some humans do terrible deeds......and for everyone of those, hopefully, someone is doing something kind and altruistic.

Try not to become cynical.........there's plenty of time for that in your old age.

[Ori]

Originally Posted by michel

The world is not a terrible place. Some humans do terrible deeds......and for everyone of those, hopefully, someone is doing something kind and altruistic.

Try not to become cynical.........there's plenty of time for that in your old age.

Okey dokey.

[Seyorni]

I've talked with Palestinians and American aid workers who've lived in the area. They report that the Israeli soldiers, especially in the occupied areas, are known for being heavy handed. Beatings are routine, and anyone who ventures outside when a town is in lock-down is probably going to be shot.

[waR toRn Rebel]

Originally Posted by The Truth

http://www.r60r.com/ab4u/images/94e7d27e39.jpg

Why is that for the sake of God?

Any thoughts?

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PLEASE EVERYONE NOTE THAT THESE PICTURES ARE VERY GRAPHIC IN CONTENT AND MAY EASILY UPSET

Its a dangerous place over there, for both sides. Fighting is bond to occur with the religious tension so heavy. However if those people were commiting plots to kill people then it is a sad dead that those soldiers had to commit to save the lives of other.

[kevmicsmi]

Isnt the car a different color from frame 3 to frame 4? Or is it just lighting?

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

I've talked with Palestinians and American aid workers who've lived in the area. They report that the Israeli soldiers, especially in the occupied areas, are known for being heavy handed. Beatings are routine, and anyone who ventures outside when a town is in lock-down is probably going to be shot.

I have no doubt this happens (althought I think the incidents are isolated). But pointing out the flaws of the Israelites accomplishes nothing but irritates and stinks of hypocrisy. Do Palestenians clean their precious and holy hands of this? Ridiculous!
Everybody's fingers can turn blue pointing fingers.

[Seyorni]

Good point, Victor. I should point out that neither side has entirely clean hands. Both Israeli and Palestinian fighters are very, very angry -- not without cause. Many are consumed with hate and will vent their rage given a real or symbolic target of opportunity.
We've seen what can happen if an Israeli strays into a Muslim neighborhood even in Jerusalem (lit: "city of peace").

[greatcalgarian]

The danger is that the West public is bombarded with Islamic terrorism (news, pictures etc), and in the same way, the Arab (Muslim) public is also bombarded with Israeli terrorism, American terrorism.

I think Truth is just trying to show the RF members what they normally do not see. Hopefully, Truth also shows other Arab forum what they do not see in their media as well.

This is education. Good for open minded people, but may get the opposite effect to closed minded persons. They will start looking for conspiracy theories, like change in color of the car, wrong angle etc. Plenty of that has been done also for the 9/11. Same suspicion.

I would rather ask for where the source is from, and try to dig further from there, looking for independent supporting evidence for the event portrayed.

[greatcalgarian]

Truth,
You read Arabic? How reliable is this web page?
http://www.r60r.net/

Do they have an English equivalent?

[TashaN]

Actually, i know that some of you may be upset from these pictures because it may conflict with their "angel" image for Isralians, while you can find the same people would back up any argument about Paletinians and show them as a gang of terrorists who don't deserve to live.

It's so funny how people's opnion about these images was somthing like "a disgusting display of mankind's shortcomings" while they call it as a "terrorism" and "barbaric acts" if this was done by Palestineans people.

I guess by now, you noticed the difference and the double standard in judging human beings.