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Old 03-02-2006, 01:31 PM
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Because homosexuals are human.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:45 PM
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The definition of marriage seems to be inadequate for your present needs. It meets my needs just fine.
The point is it's not adequate for everyones' needs. Thus, "our present needs."
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:46 PM
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You misunderstood me. It was legit. A higher power recognizes the marriage as secularly legal whether it's stated or not.
Why would the "higher power" recognize a marrige that was purely one of convienince and profit that in no way recognizes the "higher power" in return just because it is between a man and women? It seems to me that a loving god, a compassionate one, would be far more inclined to recognize a union between two people who loved and cared for one another, even if they are the same sex.

Bill Maher jokingly suggested a compramise of allowing lesbians to marry because, "...marriage is a chick thing anyway." Just trying to lighten the mood.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:48 PM
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A solution.
This isn't a need, but a want.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:56 PM
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The point is it's not adequate for everyones' needs. Thus, "our present needs."
Our system of law and how the a society functions as a whole IS NOT in the fulfilling needs business. If it were then pedophiles, rapist, theives, etc. should get their fair share too. (This was not meant as a comparison so please don't use it as such).
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:59 PM
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Our system of law and how the a society functions as a whole IS NOT in the fulfilling needs business. If it were then pedophiles, rapist, theives, etc. should get their fair share too. (This was not meant as a comparison so please don't use it as such).
Great Great Point, Victor. I'd frubal you, but I'm not allowed at this time.
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Old 03-02-2006, 02:09 PM
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That's your opinion. Obviously, Victor and I believe the arguments do hold water.
Quite honestly, I don't really think your opinion matters much in this case. You're not getting married to a gay person (that I know of), you're not being denied rights, you won't be hurt if it is legalized. Why should I be denied 1000+ rights given to heterosexual couples just because a god I don't believe in says so? I don't think incest is a nice thing, but I don't have the ego to think my opinion makes a damn difference one way or another between two people who are in an incestuous relationship.
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Our system of law and how the a society functions as a whole IS NOT in the fulfilling needs business. If it were then pedophiles, rapist, theives, etc. should get their fair share too. (This was not meant as a comparison so please don't use it as such).
I couldn't have said it better myself! This issue doesn't come down to what people can do, it comes down to what they can't. The laws are for protection and setting limits on what people can do. It's never about "allowing" but "denying". So the homosexuals should not have to state why they should be allowed to get married. Those who oppose it have the burden of showing why they can't. And I have not heard a single convincing argument as to why they should NOT be allowed to get married.
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Old 03-02-2006, 02:27 PM
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I couldn't have said it better myself! This issue doesn't come down to what people can do, it comes down to what they can't. The laws are for protection and setting limits on what people can do. It's never about "allowing" but "denying". So the homosexuals should not have to state why they should be allowed to get married. Those who oppose it have the burden of showing why they can't. And I have not heard a single convincing argument as to why they should NOT be allowed to get married.
Fair enough. I'm im the middle of putting something together and plan on posting it sometime this week or next week.
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