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Old 02-02-2006, 03:55 PM
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In my AP History class today the question was posed that if your insane, should you get away w/ murder. Don't you have to be insane to murder somebody anyway? I believe, that they give the people that plead insanity take a I.Q. test, to see if they can be held responsible for the crime. Don't you think that you would fail the test on purpose so you'ld be "insane". It makes me so angry when someone kills a kid, pleads insanity, spends 6 months in the padded room, gets out, and dangers society again. Don't you see something wrong w/ this. I mean if somebody clearly is mentally ill, and is IGNORANT of the crime he/she is making, they shouldn't be held responsible. But, if somebody knows what he and kills a human being, he should be swiftly executed.
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Old 02-02-2006, 04:06 PM
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I wasn't aware that people deemed mentally insane an unfit to stand trial were only put in an asylum for 6 months. Nobody "gets away" with murder, though. Locking someone up is still locking them up, whether it's years in an asylum or years in jail.

I don't think anyone should be killed for killing, though.
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Old 02-02-2006, 04:10 PM
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he should be swiftly executed.
A murder for a murder, great idea....
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An insanity plea is quite difficult to pull off. I have had clients who were not mentally competent to stand trial, and after a jury trial on the issue of competency they were found to be competent to be tried by the jury, even tho they were convinced the CIA was filming them through common light bulbs, heard voice, etc. . . .

The myth that a person held to be temporarily insane is going to get out in 6 months is just that, a myth. In the law, a person is either competent to stand trial, or they are not. Persons under the age of 7, and persons deemed to be mentally unfit to the point that they cannot assist in their own defense are deemed not competent to stand trial.

This is a typical yellow journalism issue.

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And they don't simply give the person an I.Q. test. I don't know where you are getting your information, but it is grotesquely innacurate.

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Thanks for dispelling that myth, MdmSzdWhtGuy. It's nice to have primary sources in issues that are rife with all sorts of myths like these ones.
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I think the first thing our court system needs to realize is that there is a difference between temporary insanity and insanity that--how do I say it?--troubles a person for a long period of time?

As you might guess, I'm sick of the temporary insanity pleas.
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An insanity plea is quite difficult to pull off. I have had clients who were not mentally competent to stand trial, and after a jury trial on the issue of competency they were found to be competent to be tried by the jury, even tho they were convinced the CIA was filming them through common light bulbs, heard voice, etc. . . .

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I believe, that they give the people that plead insanity take a I.Q. test, to see if they can be held responsible for the crime.
Also, many with mental illness have a very high intelligence quotient. So the IQ test would prove absolutely nothing.
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Also, many with mental illness have a very high intelligence quotient. So the IQ test would prove absolutely nothing.
When I was a bartender in New Orleans, I had a regular customer whom the other customers called Crazy Carol. She did behave oddly, and one time she set her boyfriend on fire. When she overheard somebody calling her Crazy Carol, she responded: "I happen to be a genius, and most geniuses are crazy!"
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