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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the Death Penalty?
Yes, the Death Penalty is justice. 4 12.12%
No, the Death Penalty is unjust. 22 66.67%
Only in the worst cases is it just. 5 15.15%
Not sure... 2 6.06%
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Old 12-02-2005, 10:02 AM
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I'm against the death penalty and think it should be replaced with 20 years in the mines. Although for some extreme religiously motivated mass murderers who are willing to kill themselves at cost of killing as many as possible, exception must be made for sake of society.
That's war. I fully support killing America's enemies. As many and as often as possible.
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Frubals to the first person who can tell me what movie this quote is from that sums up my thoughts on why we should not kill people, even the bad ones: Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.
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Frubals to the first person who can tell me what movie this quote is from that sums up my thoughts on why we should not kill people, even the bad ones: Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.
Fellowship of the Ring, right?
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i have said many times in different thread's that i strongly feel the death penalty is a fundamental hypocricy, so three guesses what my stance will be in this thread
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Old 12-02-2005, 10:25 AM
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I think the wrong question is asked here; not so much whether capital punishment is just, but whether it is effective. Does it accomplish the job of making criminals apprehensive enough about being subject to it that it deters crime?

From the general run of the mill news reports I read, it does not. If it is not accomplishing its intended purpose, then why continue with it?
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I think the wrong question is asked here; not so much whether capital punishment is just, but whether it is effective. Does it accomplish the job of making criminals apprehensive enough about being subject to it that it deters crime?

From the general run of the mill news reports I read, it does not. If it is not accomplishing its intended purpose, then why continue with it?
it is also more soctly to get someone tried and put on death row than it is to get them locked away

but even if it was cheaper, and it did affect crime rates, would it be more supportable? no, because it is still hypocritical
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I see it this way:

What is the effective difference between killing a person and keeping them in jail for their life?

1. In both cases, the person cannot kill again. Effective.
2. Neither case has been shown to actually prevent murder. If someone wants to kill, no amount of threat of punishment will stop them.
3. If keeping a person in jail for the rest of their life is just as effective as killing a them, why not err on the side of life? Why give the government a power that isn't necessary? We do this all the time and I don't understand it. We should only give our government powers that are necessary.
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