Why did we go to war? (Messiah, America, religion, divine)

[Apotheosis]

Because our President wanted to, and Congress gave him the go ahead.

[Theodore]

Originally Posted by Ulver

A Possible Reason for WHY we went to War....

Here is an interesting editorial (meaning not proven fact) on why we may of gone to war. It connects a lot of dots for me and seems to make more sense then the WMD and Oil babel.

np: Danzig- 1000 Devils Reign

What a piece of work Hartmann is. I don’t see how anybody could take this guy as anything but a lying Bush hater. The article is pure speculation based on leftist non-truths. It’s a hatchet job entitled “They died so Republicans could take the senate”. I guess if you’re going to lie, it might as well be a whopper.

Here’s just a sample of the swill this idiot writes.

Thom Hartmann

…“We know that Bush wanted to massively cut taxes on his corporate sponsors and people, like himself, with substantial inherited fortunes. He wanted to weaken government protections of the environment, children, the poor, the elderly, the ozone layer, and our nation's forests. He wanted his oil-rig and mining-interest friends to have more access to public lands.

We know he wanted to undo Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal by stripping the American workplace (particularly government and schools) of unions, rolling back "socialist" unemployment and Social Security programs, and eliminating SEC and tort restraints on predatory corporate behavior. He'd even campaigned on this platform - particularly Social Security privatization - back in 1978 when he unsuccessfully ran for Congress from Texas.

We know he wanted to increase the police power of the federal government, gut the First and Fourth Amendments, and thus create a "safe and orderly nation" of people under constant surveillance, who never question those in power.

We know he wanted to give billions of our tax dollars to churches he approved of, and bring their leaders into the halls of government. He wanted to pass laws incorporating religious dogma about when human life begins, what is appropriate sexuality, and free churches to use tax-exempt dollars to influence politics.

It was an ambitious agenda. In order to bring about this neoconservative paradise, Bush knew he'd need considerable political capital. And that kind of capital didn't come from his being selected as President by the Supreme Court.

Such political capital - such raw political power - would only come, he believed, by his becoming a "war president."

[Feathers in Hair]

What a piece of work Hartmann is. I don’t see how anybody could take this guy as anything but a lying Bush hater. The article is pure speculation based on leftist non-truths.

I'm glad we only have leftist non-truths here. It could get dangerously confusing otherwise!

[BUDDY]

Originally Posted by Theodore

The article is pure speculation based on leftist non-truths.

It has gottem to the point where people care more about their hatred of Bush, than for the actual truth. That's going around and is even quite obviously present in this forum.

[Feathers in Hair]

Originally Posted by EEWRED

It has gottem to the point where people care more about their hatred of Bush, than for the actual truth. That's going around and is even quite obviously present in this forum.

I fear the opposite is true as well.

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by EEWRED

It has gottem to the point where people care more about their hatred of Bush, than for the actual truth. That's going around and is even quite obviously present in this forum.

It is rather ironic. That every president has his wars and dances to the beat of business seems much more important than mispronunciations and drink-drive charges. That isn't the topic though.

[michel]

I wish you guys would not confuse poor foreigners like me......

[Theodore]

Originally Posted by FeathersinHair

I'm glad we only have leftist non-truths here. It could get dangerously confusing otherwise!

It just amazes me what passes for gospel with clowns like this guy. He starts his paragraphs with "We know...", as though what he is claiming is beyond dispute. Then he draws his nutty conclusion based on his paranoid fantasies about Bush.

This guy sites more conspiracies and hidden agendas than the National Enquirer.

I guess it would be too much to ask for people to actually listen to what the President says to find out why we are in Iraq. Does there always have to be a hidden agenda? Is it really that mysterious why we are fighting in the middle east?

[Feathers in Hair]

I certainly agree, Theodore. I'm leery of anyone who does that.

[Theodore]

Originally Posted by truthseekingsoul

It is rather ironic. That every president has his wars and dances to the beat of business seems much more important than mispronunciations and drink-drive charges. That isn't the topic though.

Wars and the affairs of state are indeed much more important than a mispronunciation or a DUI that happened many years ago. However, some people place a much higher value on perfect diction than the substance of what the speaker has to say. These same people interpret verbal stumbles as a surefire indication of a low intelligence. They also infer that they are intellectually superior and can’t understand why anybody would vote for somebody that has less than perfect public speaking abilities.
These same people are so smart that they backed the candidate they just knew would be the next president.
Only he wasn’t.