Two Boys executed in Iran (Jesus, moral, punishment, Sodom)

[Ulver]

Here's three articles on the event: HERE

Here are two images from the event: One, Two

There seems to be a fair amount of Fog around this subject in terms of:

what were the ages of these two boys?
If the rape indeed was rape?
The age of that third child?
Were the two boys Homosexual?
If so, did that play the main role in their execution?

Well... what do you all think of this?

regardless... from what I've heard, it seems that Iran does execute Homosexuals based on Islamic Law. Apparently they kept that part of the Homosexual Death Penalty Law from the OT.

[jamaesi]

regardless... from what I've heard, it seems that Iran does execute Homosexuals based on Islamic Law. Apparently they kept that part of the Homosexual Death Penalty Law from the OT.

Having homosexual sex is punishable with death in most Middle Eastern countries. And they don´t go by the Bible or OT, they go by the Quran and Shariah law.

[michel]

Who am I to judge ?........"Having homosexual sex is punishable with death in most Middle Eastern countries"

Presumably that means that they have to stay celibate ? - what an appalling way to have to live.

[Melody]

Originally Posted by Ulver

what were the ages of these two boys?
If the rape indeed was rape?
The age of that third child?
Were the two boys Homosexual?
If so, did that play the main role in their execution?

Well... what do you all think of this?

Another quote from the same article: "Before the two youths were executed, each received 228 lashes for theft, disturbing public order and consuming alcohol. "

A little overkill, no? The third child was supposedly 13 by the way.

Even Jesus received only 40 lashes. It is very very hard for me to look kindly on a culture or religion that promotes this type of inhumanity.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by michel

Who am I to judge ?........"Having homosexual sex is punishable with death in most Middle Eastern countries"

I certainly hope you're kidding. You are a member of the human community and have every right and responsibility to judge punishing homosexuality by death as abhorent!

[jamaesi]

In the culture, being attracted to youth of both sexes is considered normal, but acting on the temptation is a sin. Being homosexual is fine, loving another man is fine, but acting on it and having sex is very bad. Of course, it takes four men (that´s eight women) eyewitnesses to the homosexual act to condemn them for it, and I don´t really like having any kind of sex with a crowd watching and I guess that´s true for a lot of other people, so it´s sort of hard to convict people of homosexuality.

Homosexuality in modern Islamic countries' laws

Same-sex intercourse carries the death penalty in five officially Muslim nations: Saudi Arabia, Iran, Mauritania, Sudan, and Yemen.[1] It formerly carried the death penalty in Afghanistan under the Taliban, and in Iraq under a 2001 decree by Saddam Hussein. The legal situation in the United Arab Emirates is unclear. In many Muslim nations, such as Bahrain, Qatar, Algeria or the Maldives, homosexuality is punished with jail time, fines or corporal punishment. In some Muslim-majority nations, such as Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, or Mali, same-sex intercourse is not forbidden by law. However, in Egypt gays have been the victims of laws against "immorality".

In Saudi Arabia, the maximium punishment for homosexuality is public execution, but the government will use other punishments, i.e. fines, jail time and whipping as alternatives, unless it feels that homosexuals are challenging state authority by engaging in a gay rights movement. [2] Iran is perhaps the nation to execute the largest number of its citizens for homosexuality. Since its Islamic revolution in Iran, the Iranian government has executed more than 4000 people charged with homosexual acts. In Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban homosexuality went from a capital crime to one that it punished with fines and prison sentence, and a similar situation seems to have occured in Iraq (see gay rights in Iraq.)

Another thing to be mentioned is that the strict seperation of the sexes drives many young men, who would not define themselves as homosexual, to experiment with others of the same gender...

[Jayhawker Soule]

Good information.

[michel]

Originally Posted by Deut. 32.8

I certainly hope you're kidding. You are a member of the human community and have every right and responsibility to judge punishing homosexuality by death as abhorent!

But surely I have no right in telling other Countries how to behave - apart from signing petitions ?