WMDs found in Iraq! (America, sunday, service, Article)

[Jaymes]

This is great news! The war was justified now, right?

BAGHDAD, Aug. 13 -- U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said Saturday. Monday's early morning raid found 11 precursor agents, "some of them quite dangerous by themselves," a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, said in Baghdad.

Combined, the chemicals would yield an agent capable of "lingering hazards" for those exposed to it, Boylan said. The likely targets would have been "coalition and Iraqi security forces, and Iraqi civilians," partly because the chemicals would be difficult to keep from spreading over a wide area, he said.

Boylan said the suspected lab was new, dating from some time after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Bush administration cited evidence that Saddam Hussein's government was manufacturing weapons of mass destruction as the main justification for the invasion. No such weapons or factories were found.

... maybe not.

By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, August 14, 2005; Page A18

[Seyorni]

As of last night they had not even determined what the contents were. They just found a bunch of barrels full of something.

[Dr. Nosophoros]

I thought we were supposed to trip over them, but it seems barely enough to cover a small farm field even if they are cut with water, don't know, this lie has gone on long enough.

[jamaesi]

I thought we were supposed to trip over them, but it seems barely enough to cover a small farm field even if they are cut with water, don't know, this lie has gone on long enough.

Not to mention that these were AFTER we invaded them.

[BUDDY]

It used to be that liberals were the peole you could rely on to stand up for human rights and fight against those that would so agressively target and destroy the innocent. For some reason, that has changed, and I think it is because of who is in office. Are there WMD's in Iraq? Apparently not. Were there? Apparently so. Should it make any difference to the justification to removing a man who killed between 200,000 and 350,000 of his own people during his reign? I'll leave that for you to decide.

[Seyorni]

How are you coming to the conclusion that liberals aren't standing up for human rights, EEWRED? Standing up for human rights doesn't mean invading every country with an oppressive leader (many of which the US actually installed).

Of course Saddam was a tyrant and had WMDs, after all, the CIA supported him, and we have the receipts for the WMDs. But the UN inspectors had cleared the country of WMDs years ago, as was well known to the CIA.

The Iraqis overwhelmingly agree that things are worse under American occupation than under Saddam. Civilians are being killed at a far greater rate, and everyone, save a few American supported politicians, wants the US out.

This is all the work of the Republicans. How do you blame the liberals for this?

[Dr. Nosophoros]

Who supported him EEWRED?

Considering that the CIA considered the Baathist coup as one of their "greatest achievements" I would say that support for Saddam was universal at some point.

It seems to me that the only WMD has been and always will be in third world countries the U.S.

[BUDDY]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

How are you coming to the conclusion that liberals aren't standing up for human rights, EEWRED? Standing up for human rights doesn't mean invading every country with an oppressive leader (many of which the US actually installed).

Of course Saddam was a tyrant and had WMDs, after all, the CIA supported him, and we have the receipts for the WMDs. But the UN inspectors had cleared the country of WMDs years ago, as was well known to the CIA.

The Iraqis overwhelmingly agree that things are worse under American occupation than under Saddam. Civilians are being killed at a far greater rate, and everyone, save a few American supported politicians, wants the US out.

This is all the work of the Republicans. How do you blame the liberals for this?

Blah, blah, blah. I've come to expect nothing less that a bunch of gobberish from you. Did we install Hussein? No, of course not. Your argument is as faulty as your logic.

The CIA supported him? When, where and how. Not proven, it's a theroy that has been out forth by people as liberal as you. Again, trying to make us look bad for doing something you don't agree with. Get over yourself.

Really, the Iraqis think they are worse off? What study, poll or personal experience are your referring to? I've been there. It's not true. Take a trip, show a poll, site a source, but prove it, don't quote a repetative lie. Oh, and when you do get a poll or source, make sure it is one that can be trusted and not the usual crap that I see on this forum.

I blame Saddam for this. I blame terrorism for what is happening now. Have you read the reports of the mass murders in Fallujah by the insurgents? I blame liberalism and liberal mentality for the ridiculous arguments and their attempts to polarize a country, when what is needed is a unifying attitude to finish the job, stabilize a country, end terrorism and bring our brave men and women home.

[nonobjective]

Originally Posted by EEWRED

It used to be that liberals were the peole you could rely on to stand up for human rights and fight against those that would so agressively target and destroy the innocent. For some reason, that has changed, and I think it is because of who is in office. Are there WMD's in Iraq? Apparently not. Were there? Apparently so. Should it make any difference to the justification to removing a man who killed between 200,000 and 350,000 of his own people during his reign? I'll leave that for you to decide.

We liberated the people of Iraq from Sadam quite handily; it seems we simply can not figure out how to liberate the people of Iraq from us.

In my opinion... we should never have made the case for Iraq one reliant about terrorism or WMDs. It should have been about liberty and democracy for the Iraqi people from the start... not just shocking and awe-ing.

[Feathers in Hair]

*worried look* Eewred, you're getting kind of personal. Please be more gentle