Jihad (reject, Moses, Earth, followers, America)

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The Method of Jihad

Host: No one said it was Dar Salam, but those who kill and perpetrate this violence are not...

Al-Naqqash: I say, before you even ask, that the Arab countries... Any cleric with knowledge of Islam, must guide the Jihad of Islam in the right direction. He must say: We declare Jihad against the US, England, and their allies occupying Islamic lands, and in this proper method. When the nation's clerics are silent, sitting on their butts, and talking only about how Islam is a religion of love, they give the youth of the nation the liberty to act freely and respond in their own methods.

[jamaesi]

If you don't like the resistance then end the occupation.

[michel]

I would feel far happier having seen the whole article; excerpts can be used to deliberately mislead.......(I just realized I have split an infinitive... )

Quote ........."Islam is the religion of life in general, and not a blind religion. Islam does not surrender to foreign aggression. So stating categorically that Islam is a religion of love that rejects violence – This is a big lie. "Take them and kill them wherever you find them." This is taken from the words of Allah (the Koran). About whom? About Allah's enemies. This is violence.

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Who said that violence is futile? What happened in Spain? A lying and deceiving prime minister... Like (Hasanein) Heikal said... Just because it served his party's interest. The only reason Spain entered the war in Iraq was that the PM's right-wing party was financed by several Gulf States, at America's request. As a show of gratitude, he entered the war. He brought his people to war. He had to be hit over the head with a large hammer in order to wake up. This led to a result. Jack Straw, the great genius, the foreign secretary, admits today: "It seems that the London bombings are related to our presence in Iraq." What a revelation!".............Unquote

The bit in between those two paragraphs might change the meaning somewhat......

[Ezzedean]

Hi Michel, How are you? I'm not into debating over and over with people within this post as I feel its a never ending cycle and usually leads nowhere, but I have to reply to this post.

"Take them and kill them wherever you find them." This is taken from the words of Allah (the Koran). About whom? About Allah's enemies. This is violence.


I just have to let you know that in the Bible it makes the same references to those against God A.K.A Allah. Those who cause mischief on earth and fight against God, we are told to fight back. Al Quada and Taliban are indeed transgressors and it is stated clearly in the Quran and the Bible, that God does NOT love the transgressors. Dont make it seem as if it is only in the Quran where it is said to fight, and dont be fooled by the reputation of what an extreme Muslim group has built, they are not TRUE muslims. Think about the story of Moses, rather than moses killing the people himself, God drowned pharoas people for him, and killed them. There are many examples of times when God protected the Prophets weather it be Abraham, Moses or Noah by clearing out nations. Whats the difference? I am not for war, and I am ashamed of what the Muslim name has become in Western society, but that does not mean if a man were to come to me and state that he would kill me for believing in God, that I wouldn't fight back, and I hope a Christian or a Jew would do the same. We need to learn that we are all worshipping the same God, some dont believe so, but its what we Muslims (Followers of God) are taight.

Sii-62
Those who believe in the Quran
And those who follow the Jewish Scriptures
And the Christians and the Sabians,
And Who believe in God
And the Last Day ,
And work righteousness,
Shall have their reward
With their Lord: on them
Shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

Salam
Peace and Blessings Brothers and Sisters.

[Ezzedean]

I apologize Michel, I read your post incorrectly. It was not you stating this, you were quoting another article, accept my apologies.

Ezzedan

[Ezzedean]

Nevermind, I didnt read your post incorrectly... lol. You were stating Islam was a religion that condemned violence. Just finished a twelve hour shift building car seats for the Chevy Equinox..... excuse my blabbering.

Peace and Blessings

[capthowdy]

Jihad literally means "to struggle." In the military sense it is meant in the context, "to struggle against oppression." Jihad is therefore an act to liberate people from the oppression of tyrants. Jihad is not illegal acts of terror against innocent people.

When tabloid journalism and fanatic regimes mistakenly inform the masses that Jihad is "to commit illegal acts of terror," they are revealing their ignorance, the lack of their research, and the extent of their unprofessional and deceitful approach to the subject.

[anders]

Engage in a war against my country, and I'll fight you any way I can, especially if it's against all international rules.

But jihad should be more of a person's inner struggle to follow the teachings of Islam.

[capthowdy]

Originally Posted by anders

But jihad should be more of a person's inner struggle to follow the teachings of Islam.

Yes in a philosophical stance, not a military one..........
But if you think about it where is the line drawn? Can outside influences and oppression not have an effect on one's inner struggle? Of course it can, my is in pointing out the loss in translation and media communication.

[Mr Spinkles]

Originally Posted by jamaesi

If you don't like the resistance then end the occupation.

The goal of the 9/11 attacks was to end which occupation again? I can't seem to remember. :