John Kerry's Spirituality (Jesus Christ, priest, moral, attend, America)

[Mr Spinkles]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

You mean, people adopt fetuses and embryoes? Strange.

You mean, a fetus isn't a developing human being, as is a newborn? Strange.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00138.htm

Ahem.

Could you quote the part where Bush uses God to justify the war please? I can't find it anywhere.

And didn't the UN tell Bush not to go to war, but to continue searching with weapons inspectors instead? Hrm.

The U.N. said a lot of things, as did the ceasefire agreement at the end of the first Gulf War, but I can't go into this as we are getting off topic. We need to get back to Kerry's spirituality.

[civilcynic]

We can and should judge both Bush and Kerry in terms of who we perceive would be the best president for the country and we may even rely to varying extents on what we presume to be their personal religious beliefs to make that decision.

Personally, I do not think I am in the position to judge or question either Kerry's or Bush's spirituality. I suppose I believe that their degree of spirituality or lack there of is best left between them and their God.

[YawgmothsAvatar]

I don't think that the relgion of a presidential candidate should be considered at all. I think the judgement should be made by the person's ability to lead America.

Not that I have much of an option-- I am too young to vote, Canadian, and atheist. All I see is Christian and Christian, as far as religion goes.

[trishtrish10]

kerry is for keeping the legalization of child murder. so are most other democrats. how u can give them your support is beyond me. al gore, kerry and the clintons were spoiled little rich kids and play dangerously with our minds and hearts. i would much rather have well disciplined and better educated politicians who don't go with the flow, media that is.

[Green Gaia]

Originally Posted by trishtrish10

al gore, kerry and the clintons were spoiled little rich kids

And GWB wasn't? LOL!

[Christy]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mr_Spinkles)
I think adoption is the right answer, especially after a couple of months into the pregnancy...that's not a religious belief, it's a moral stance.


Phoenix reply: You mean, people adopt fetuses and embryoes? Strange.
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No Phoenix, dear. Adopt the baby after it is born and you know that is what was meant.

My opinion?
There should be no reasons for abortions. ...including the health of the mother. It seems to me that if the mother's life is at stake, which is an extremely rare occurence, doctors should try to save both the mother's and the infant's life. If this is not possible, then they should save the life of the living human being that they are most likely to be able to save. This is called triage. The life of the living human being in the womb is just as sacred and important as the living human being called its mother.

As to the instances of rape and incest. These cases should be dealt with legally and aggressively. But the baby inside the womb of the woman should not be sentenced to death because he/she is inconvenient at the moment. There are SO many places this pregnant woman could go to for financial and emotional help -and for adoption possibilities. (Faith based organizations are the best place to begin.)

Those people who advocate abortion do not want to let women find out about their sisters who have had abortions and now find it almost emotionally incapacitating to deal with what they have done.

[Feathers in Hair]

Originally Posted by Christy

If Kerry truly did believe so much in Jesus, he would not be in the party that not only condones but celebrates the killing of unborn children.

I'm gonna second Maize on this, could you explain the 'celebrates' part? I'm afraid they left me outta the loop on that one. ("I should've gotten the memo, then I could have brought some party hats along..." Ugh, some concepts are too repulsive for sarcasm. My apologies.)

Back to the topic of the article, I thought it very interesting that Kerry is more the Jesus-like figure than Bush, having kept to either his own company or that of relative outcasts and loners, whereas Bush, both growing up and now, has had those in power surrounding him on all sides. Except, perhaps, on the opposing side. That's why I suppose he irks me. He reminds me of a very sterotypical, 'might makes right' type of bully.

And, at the risk of offending any 'Nelsons' out there, Jesus is very much the anti-bully.

[trishtrish10]

bush cares more for our welfare and security than kerry. kerry just wants power. bush knows how to delegate it. he comes from a wealthy family but has good character and discipline. he wasn't spoiled as u observe in his behavior.

[Melody]

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in my church one can''t choose what he wants to believe >>

How sad that you allow your church to define your beliefs. I believe only God can do that.

Melody

[Rex]

kinda off topic but if you go to google.com and search for "John Kerry's Spirituality " you get linked to this thread. hehe.