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Old 04-04-2005, 03:23 PM
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The French outlawed Muslim headscarves yet they`ll drop their flags to half mast for the death of the Pope?
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Socialist senator Jean-Luc Melenchon and Yves Contassot, a senior Green party member on the Paris City Council, said the government had abused its powers in ordering the official tribute to the Pope, who died on Saturday.

The Unsa union said the government was guilty of double standards having ordered schools to take part in the tribute to a religious leader while having banned Muslim headscarves in state schools in a drive to keep schools firmly secular.

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Yes, it is quite odd that France would lower its flag at the death of the Pope. Aren't they still sore about all of the suffering that religion has brought and is continuing to bring upon Europe? The next Pope is most likely going to continue condemning birth control and other critical issues that are not in the best interest of France.

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Nevertheless, the Pope was a memorable and great world leader. Perhaps they honor John Paul in a very secular way and mourn him as they would mourn any other great leader, which is not hypocricy.
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Nevertheless, the Pope was a memorable and great world leader. Perhaps they honor John Paul in a very secular way and mourn him as they would mourn any other great leader, which is not hypocricy.

This is how I tend to see it as well .
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The French outlawed Muslim headscarves yet they`ll drop their flags to half mast for the death of the Pope?
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The Pope is the soverign of the Vatican - a political head of state. The flag being at half mast is appropiate
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The Pope is the soverign of the Vatican - a political head of state. The flag being at half mast is appropiate
I look at it the same way you do. He was a political leader, not just a religious one. As such, mourning his passing would be quite appropriate.
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I'll just mention that France did not outlaw Islamic headscaves in schools; they outlawed religious expression in schools. For some reason, the headscaf issue is the only part of it that seems to get noticed. I also fully understand why they did this, even though I wouldn't wish this to happen in Britain.

You could say the same about Britain. We're officially a Protestant country, yet all sorts of things have happened (or not happened, in some cases) here in order to show respect for the death of the Pope.
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I'll just mention that France did not outlaw Islamic headscaves in schools; they outlawed religious expression in schools. For some reason, the headscaf issue is the only part of it that seems to get noticed. I also fully understand why they did this, even though I wouldn't wish this to happen in Britain.

You could say the same about Britain. We're officially a Protestant country, yet all sorts of things have happened (or not happened, in some cases) here in order to show respect for the death of the Pope.
As you so rightly said, the French did not outlaw Islamic headscarves; they outlawed Religious expression. This is so typical of the wrong conclusion being 'jumped at' in support of a minority group where there is no actual racism or 'Religicism'. French children are only allowed to wear a discreet cross under their shirts if they are Catholics; they are not allowed 'overt' demonstrations of their religious beliefs.
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The French outlawed Muslim headscarves yet they`ll drop their flags to half mast for the death of the Pope?
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For them to outlaw Muslim headscarves is evil in and of itself. It is a well known fact that the virgin Mary wore a headscarf and it has been a Jewish custom for THOUSANDS of years and still is today for those Jews that try to hang on to their roots (although it is not obligatory). So for France to outlaw headscarves not only oppresses the Islamic way of life but it also oppresses all Adamic traditions from the lineage of Abraham.

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For them to outlaw Muslim headscarves is evil in and of itself. It is a well known fact that the virgin Mary wore a headscarf and it has been a Jewish custom for THOUSANDS of years and still is today for those Jews that try to hang on to their roots (although it is not obligatory). So for France to outlaw headscarves not only oppresses the Islamic way of life but it also oppresses all Adamic traditions from the lineage of Abraham.

Let this be a sign for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
It's a sign all right...it's a sign that you didn't read any of the posts that said it was an across the board ban on religious expression in schools and not a specific targeting of people wearing head scarves.
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Same same. To ban religious expression in schools is oppression.
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