Shame on every Christian in Texas who (Jesus, testimony, gospel)

[Dr. Khan]

Originally Posted by Green Man

If I was sitting on death row awaiting execution,I would tell the world I was homosexual and then prove it on national television if it would get me off death row.You can't trust anything a person in that position says.

but the mercy of the Lord endureth for ever. Even if Karla Faye was lying the person who had the power to show her mercy is claiming to be a christian. The true nature of a christian is to show mercy and give that person another chance. She would hav e to lie everyday of her life and then go to hell. ( that's of course if she's lying) Hey I'm a christian I believe I know that Jesus changes lives. He changed me. The changes in me, I can easily see how that when a person confesses Jesus, that he must contiunue to do so every day of his life, and he will see another day where he will need the mercy of God, more than anything else. because when you confess Jesus it's his responsibility to keep the covenant in force for( you ) because there is no other way. We confess Jesus but we need him to make it (the promise ) happen. Now this gospel of Christ can be tested and proved. In this is my confidence

[Dr. Khan]

Originally Posted by john313

Paul of Tarsus also taught that we should submit to the governing authority(even if they are oppressors and want to make us slaves). The governing authority said she should be put to death. Who was G.W. to argue with the great Paul of Tarsus-the founder of christianity?

THE governer of the great state of texas.

I got a gusher here it's that black gold, that texas tea, Shall I move to californy, even beverly hills, where thers swimming pools en movie stars.



Blessed be the God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in the heavenly places in Christ.

[The Voice of Reason]

Originally Posted by emoaref

It is not known but could be significant how many murders are detered by the death penalty.

It is known, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that people that have been executed have a zero rate of recidivism. Gary Gilmore, John Gacy, and Ted Bundy - not one of them have killed anyone since the date of their execution. For my money, that's a pretty solid statistic.

Originally Posted by Augustine

True wisdom comes from Christ...
Christianity is the first religion, the only true religion.
All theology is Christology ...

I wonder where bigotry comes from? I wonder why people are killed in the name of God? I wonder how people can find a way to justify hating someone that isn't exactly the same as them? Is there any other religion that would take exception to this?

If someone believes in Christianity, fine. I support your right to believe as you wish, but to denigrate everyone (and I do mean EVERYONE) else's belief system is just beyond defense.

TVOR

[Draka]

TVOR - applause galore, you rock!

[BUDDY]

Originally Posted by The Voice of Reason

I wonder where bigotry comes from? I wonder why people are killed in the name of God? I wonder how people can find a way to justify hating someone that isn't exactly the same as them? Is there any other religion that would take exception to this?

If someone believes in Christianity, fine. I support your right to believe as you wish, but to denigrate everyone (and I do mean EVERYONE) else's belief system is just beyond defense.
TVOR

TVOR, do think that all bigotry comes from Christianity or that Christianity is responsible for all intolerance?

[jamaesi]

Typical muslim garbage and lies.Amazing how muslims constantly denigrate the Bible as corrupt and contaminated,and then want to "prove"Muhammad is in there.You insist on calling Paul a liar and then take offense when it's pointed out how Muhammad was a murderer and child rapist.

Whoa now, that's a little harsh. There's just three things I would like to point out. First, I doubt ANY book hundreds of years old and translated many times and read by thousands is entirely the same as it was when the ink was still drying on it- be it the Bible, the Quran, or even your great-great-great-great-grandmother's diary. Secondly, no one in the Bible ever killed? That's news to me. Third, isn't it fun to call people child rapists while forgetting people lived much shorter lives back then and did marry young?

I wonder where bigotry comes from? I wonder why people are killed in the name of God? I wonder how people can find a way to justify hating someone that isn't exactly the same as them? Is there any other religion that would take exception to this?

If someone believes in Christianity, fine. I support your right to believe as you wish, but to denigrate everyone (and I do mean EVERYONE) else's belief system is just beyond defense.

I'll raise an amen to that.

[Draka]

EEWRED - I don't think that TVOR is saying that...just responding to certain people's prejudices in this thread I believe...though he can always correct me if I am wrong.

[The Voice of Reason]

Originally Posted by EEWRED

TVOR, do think that all bigotry comes from Christianity or that Christianity is responsible for all intolerance?

Of course not, and I'm sure you know that I do not believe that. Bigotry and intolerance can be found in all religions and all belief systems. We have all seen evidence of that on this site. We have both seen Atheists come on here and simply trash Christians, Muslims trash Christians, Muslims trash Atheists, Agnostics ... well, Agnostics seem to be pretty level headed - but you get my drift. I understand full well that each belief system has people claiming inclusion that espouse hatred, bigotry, intolerance and moral righteousness.

I simply point it out, whenever I encounter it - regardless of what belief system the offender claims to be from. In this instance, the person claims to be a Christian, but I have no qualms about calling an Agnostic, Atheist, Muslim, or anyone else on bigotry. My point is valid - that bigotry and intolerance are born of an unreal bias toward those that do not share our values, morals, or religious bent.

To me, one of the best barometers for any belief system is how it's members treat those wearing the same robes that espouse this crap. Do other Christians distance themselves from Fred Phelps - they certainly seem to, to me. Do most Muslims disavow Osama Bin Laden - again, most of them seem to, to me. You can accept, reject, defend, or distance from anyone on this board, as you see fit, but do not expect me to stand idly by while someone claims exclusive rights to God, or a moral superiority - no matter what it is based on.

There are good people in every belief system, there are people that are "middle of the road" in every belief system, and there are people that are heinous in every belief system. Give me the SOGFPP's, NetDoc's, Melody's, and Martha's from the Christian world (there are others, but I can't turn this into a roll call). Someone else can take the Pat Robertson's, Jerry Falwell's, and Robert Tilton's, as I have no use for them (other than the occasional belly laugh).

Bottom line - I don't want anyone to ever confuse me with someone that turns a blind eye to this garbage. Take your stand wherever you will.

Originally Posted by Draka

EEWRED - I don't think that TVOR is saying that...just responding to certain people's prejudices in this thread I believe...though he can always correct me if I am wrong.

I have yet to find you in the wrong, Draka.

Thanks,
TVOR

[Draka]

thank you TVOR

[Scuba Pete]

TVOR's my hero.