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Old 07-27-2008, 11:37 PM
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God as an indeterminate, inexplicable, formless, unknowable thing. Everything else is 'anything'.
God is an unfalsifiable idea... an myth and a legend. Assigning qualities that are not unfalsifiability is just silly.

Ahh... I see your not silly.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:49 AM
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I are correct - you cannot "do" nothing. only something.
But nihilism isn't about doing nothing.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:33 AM
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To escape pain.
Isn't it possible to believe there is nothing and still have great fun? Can you have great fun in your dreams?

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I believe that "0" exists.
Because we invented "0". For the rest, "0" isn't the same as nothing.
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:50 AM
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There is a difference between "belief in nothing" (a belief) and having no beliefs. I think that nihilism embraces the former and is often (grammatically) mistaken for the latter.

It is possible to believe in "nothing" along with everything else we believe in. It is not possible to have no beliefs, as I understand the thing.
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:02 PM
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It is possible to believe in "nothing" along with everything else we believe in. It is not possible to have no beliefs, as I understand the thing.
In that case it is impossible to find an explanation in the real world and is 0 indeed the closest we seem to get to it I guess...?
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:06 PM
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In that case it is impossible to find an explanation in the real world and is 0 indeed the closest we seem to get to it I guess...?
Why is it "impossible to find an explanation in the real world"? and "is 0 indeed the closest we seem to get to" what?
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:40 PM
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Why is it "impossible to find an explanation in the real world"?
I don't know for sure, but we had a thread once dealing with that question and nobody could find an example or a link that did.

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and "is 0 indeed the closest we seem to get to" what?
nothing.
If indeed there is no reallife example, I, Personally think 0 is the best abstract way so far, even though flawed allready, to nothing.
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I don't know for sure, but we had a thread once dealing with that question and nobody could find an example or a link that did.
A link to nothing? Wouldn't that be something, eh?

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nothing.
If indeed there is no reallife example, I, Personally think 0 is the best abstract way so far, even though flawed allready, to nothing.
I see, now. In the same way, "god" is such a symbol to some.
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