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Old 04-15-2006, 03:01 AM
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...these arent in this case the inventions of the human mind, just basiccaly eye glasses from god, helping us see our reality clearly.
Or, perhaps, cataracts...
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human mind? ah, but the human being is the ultimate level at using this binary system. it is not as great in other creaturs. i would explain this as the will of god forcing some divine supernatural perceptions of reality upon ourselves so that we may be able to comprehend our being. these arent in this case the inventions of the human mind, just basiccaly eye glasses from god, helping us see our reality clearly.
I would argue that it doesn't exist in other creatures because they see reality the way it is. We label, attach bias, paradigms, etc... to reality and in turn are seeing an illusion created by our mind. This makes the human being inferior in this regard (if inferiority and superiority really exist ), and shows the spiritual superiority of animals, plants, etc... I don't see it as a gift from god, but a curse we humans brought upon ourselves by clinging to our ego.
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I like to use a ladder as analogous to the spiritual journey. Animals, plants, and the rest of nature are at the top of the ladder, already at one with Tao (god). And humans are at the bottom. Why? Because we refuse to drop everything we are holding that is weighing us down.

Such as; Money, Ego, Paradigms, Labels, Desires, Worries, Concerns, Attachments (material, emotional, psychological, etc...), Personal Possessions, concepts, ideas, biases, needs, etc...

Interestingly enough, it is very difficult to hold a 50 lb weight, and EFFORTLESS to drop it. Yet we still continue to hold it, thinking that it will help us when in the end it just keeps weighing us down, and holding us back. This is the essence of zazen, "Just Drop It!" We need to step back from our ego, and humble ourselves to listen to those who are ONE. They don't need a book, words, rituals, or preconceived notions of what they "think" is right. They just ARE. Nature has much to teach us, we just need to learn how to listen.
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Would you then agree that differentiating between hot and cold is an ego function?
Absolutely. And while it is true that all animals do this, animals do not place conceptualized value upon them like humans do.
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