Precepts of a Peaceful Warrior (tradition, Buddhism, hell, POV)

[Scuba Pete]

Quite wrong. He lived the rule and so he conquered all.

We obviously have a different focus. I will continue to focus on love and tolerance and you are free to focus on aggression and hate. We become what we focus on.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

you are free to focus on aggression and hate.

By saying that, you prove that you have no idea what they're talking about.

[Pariah]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

Quite wrong. He lived the rule and so he conquered all.

Did you read anything I posted?
Does the story of Prithviraj Chauhan mean nothing to you? As a Christian and a non-Indian, it obviously means nothing, but try to empathize with me.

We obviously have a different focus. I will continue to focus on love and tolerance and you are free to focus on aggression and hate. We become what we focus on.

It is not hate that motivates me, but my desire to protect. It is you, who would forsake an entire country of people simply to gloat about your moral superiority that separates you from me.

[Azakel]

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

I am closed minded to using violence, or threats of violence. Please don't hit me if that offends you.

Originally Posted by Scuba Pete

you are free to focus on aggression and hate.

I do feel that these two quote right here show that you do not understand anything any of us has said. Go back and read my OP, if you did you would see:

A warrior is the epitome of controlled compassion & controlled violence.
A warrior understands the merits of compassion.
Have compassion for all beings, causing them no unnecessary hurt, nor needless harm.
Refrain from needless competitiveness, from contriving for self-advantage, and from subjugating others.

I know there more but I would like to focus on this, read them and think about it, and way would hit you is what you said offended me, that goes against what it means to be a PW.

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by Azakel

I do feel that these two quote right here show that you do not understand anything any of us has said. Go back and read my OP, if you did you would see:

Perhaps I understand all too well.

Originally Posted by Azakel

controlled violence.

Like "Jumbo shrimp", this is indeed an oxymoron. Any hint of violence means you are out of control.

You see, you use diligence and discipline to prepare... but to prepare for what? To fight? To negotiate? For what? Those who are prepared to fight are more inclined to do so. Those who do not see a fight as even a remote possibility are far less inclined to do so.

To me it's quite simple: violence begets violence. Peace begets peace. Fighting fire with fire only creates more burned areas. Fight the fire with water.

[Azakel]

You know what Pete, it's over, you have to thick of a head, all you are doing now is judging us, but doesn't or belief say Judge not and all that good stuff, you are making us out to be something where not and I find it quit rude and disrespectful.

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by Pariah

Did you read anything I posted?

But of course. I read your entire post and disagreed with both your premise and conclusions. You were neither compelling nor clear.

Originally Posted by Pariah

Does the story of Prithviraj Chauhan mean nothing to you?

Of course it does, but I reject your conclusion.

Originally Posted by Pariah

As a Christian and a non-Indian, it obviously means nothing, but try to empathize with me.

You make a lot of assumptions here that are in error and are quite offensive. Why does my ethnicity make me not care?

Originally Posted by Pariah

It is not hate that motivates me, but my desire to protect.

For someone who is quick to assert that I did not read your missive, you certainly seem to have missed what I said. I did not say that hate motivated you, but that you were focused on hate. Whether it is your hate or the hate of others, you seem to be focused on the probability that somehow violence will intrude on your existence. In contrast, I concentrate on the probability that love will intrude on my existence and I will do everything in my power to see that it does. My focus is love. Yours is hate.

Originally Posted by Pariah

It is you, who would forsake an entire country of people simply to gloat about your moral superiority that separates you from me.

Again, an empty and fallacious assumption and conclusion on your part. While I will readily admit that I see aggression as morally inferior to love, there will be no gloating should violence occur.

So tell me, these perpetrators of violence... did they come in love or as warriors? What if we were to beat all of the swords, guns and bombs into intruments of peace? Where would the warriors be without their instruments of destruction? Would these people still be alive?

Now, this is not a condemnation of "martial arts". Just like football, there can be a time to "play out" our aggressions in a healthy manner. Fencing, marksmanship, boxing and a number of sports are just that: SPORTS. But to adopt a "warrior mentality" is to prepare for violence. No more and certainly, no less.

[Scuba Pete]

Originally Posted by Azakel

You know what Pete, it's over, you have to thick of a head, all you are doing now is judging us, but doesn't or belief say Judge not and all that good stuff, you are making us out to be something where not and I find it quit rude and disrespectful.

I don't judge you, my friend. I disgree with you. In the future, if you would like no one to present a counter view, simply ask those that disagree with you to refrain from commenting. Simple really, since not everyone can consider precepts that run contrary to their own.