Up in the sky, it's Superego (moral, punishment, mystic, soul)

[Willamena]

What is the difference, if any, between Freud's concept of "superego" and conscience? If none, then why did he give it a new name?

The superego is defined as "the ethical component of the personality, providing the moral standards by which the ego operates. The superego is formed during the first five years of life in response to parental punishment and approval; children internalize their parents' moral standards as well as those of the surrounding society, and the developing superego serves to control aggressive or other socially unacceptable impulses. Violation of the superego's standards gives rise to feelings of guilt or anxiety."

[Ozzie]

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Originally Posted by Willamena

What is the difference, if any, between Freud's concept of "superego" and conscience?

None. Both are sorts of dumb, "larger than life" good guys.

If none, then why did he give it a new name?

Freud had an unconscious desire to redefine the obvious.

The superego is defined as "the ethical component of the personality, providing the moral standards by which the ego operates. The superego is formed during the first five years of life in response to parental punishment and approval; children internalize their parents' moral standards as well as those of the surrounding society, and the developing superego serves to control aggressive or other socially unacceptable impulses. Violation of the superego's standards gives rise to feelings of guilt or anxiety."

Freud made a far greater contribution to the language of psychology, than to either the theory or practice of treating anxiety.

[PureX]

Originally Posted by Willamena

What is the difference, if any, between Freud's concept of "superego" and conscience? If none, then why did he give it a new name?

The superego is defined as "the ethical component of the personality, providing the moral standards by which the ego operates. The superego is formed during the first five years of life in response to parental punishment and approval; children internalize their parents' moral standards as well as those of the surrounding society, and the developing superego serves to control aggressive or other socially unacceptable impulses. Violation of the superego's standards gives rise to feelings of guilt or anxiety."

He thought he was discovering something new, because, I suppose, it was a new idea to him. And to his credit, he was viewing human nature in a whole new context.

I think this is a common trait among creative people: thinking that they are the first to recognize an idea that is really only a new idea to them. It's happened to me a number of times.

[michel]

Originally Posted by PureX

I think this is a common trait among creative people: thinking that they are the first to recognize an idea that is really only a new idea to them. It's happened to me a number of times.

Same here; only last week, I invented the wheel...............

[capslockf9]

The phenomena of id, ego, and superego had already been scrutinized and labeled, by buddha ,zen master, yogis, shamans, mystics, etc.. Dr Freud arrived at the same conclusions. And he was a smart observant man.

All organisms have a nervous activity that is dedicated to the survival of that organizism.. This nervous activity goes a step further in humans ; in that it gives us the sense of self. Dr. Freud defines ego as the sense of self.


And this nervous process is always talking and issuing directives. Indian Swamis labeled it "the drunken monkey mind"

PureX said:
"The superego is formed during the first five years of life in response to parental punishment and approval". The Nagual called it domestication.

[Stellify]

Originally Posted by PureX

I think this is a common trait among creative people: thinking that they are the first to recognize an idea that is really only a new idea to them.

In book IV of Plato's Republic, Socrates, Adeimantus, and Glaucon are discussing their hypothetical city and the human soul. They come to the conclusion that the soul has three parts. The rational part, the appetitive (irrational) part, and the spirited part. Some of the ways they describe these parts of the soul are almost identical to Freud's descriptions if Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. Socrates concludes that the irrational, or appetitive, part of the soul is where the urges for food, drink, and sex come from. Sound a little familiar? It's an interesting bit to read and compare to Freud. Especially considering that Plato's work came about around 360 BC and Freud first started publishing his theories on the Id, Ego and Super-Ego in the 1920s.
I rather liked it, anyways.