Does destiny exist? (reincarnation, choice)

[Bouncing Ball]

Originally Posted by robtex

I contest this because it lacks intent. It is a force of nature devoid of motive or intent. I think a precurser to predestiny is intent and motive.

I am very sorry, but my english is not good enough to understand this
Too many difficult words
If you would rephrase though...

[standing_alone]

Originally Posted by michel

I think Rob is saying "What is missing from life for destiny not to be able to be there?"

Well, I just think destiny is unprovable (well I guess the lack of destiny is as well), but I just don't feel that we are all born with destinies. I think that through our own actions we come what we become and not because it was somehow set out for us.

[robtex]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Ball

I am very sorry, but my english is not good enough to understand this
Too many difficult words
If you would rephrase though...

I don't know if I can and keep the intregity of the post. Can I ask you to try babelfish for clarification? Wow your english is awsome, I thought you were fluent in it by your posts on RF i general. Here is the site for babelfish.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

[robtex]

Originally Posted by standing_alone

Whosa whatsit?

Ok hang in there with me. You said that destiny does not exist. I am assuming you see it as not existing because a key ingredient(s) is missing that would be neccessary for it to exist. If my assessment is true what is/are those ingredients?

[standing_alone]

Originally Posted by robtex

Ok hang in there with me. You said that destiny does not exist. I am assuming you see it as not existing because a key ingredient(s) is missing that would be neccessary for it to exist. If my assessment is true what is/are those ingredients?

Ha ha, wow I'm so stupid. Well, this is just my personal belief (and I'm probably wrong), but to me, destiny seems to be the result of intervention of something supernatural. I don't believe in the supernatural (and to me, destiny seems to be supernatural), so I doubt the existence of destiny. Is that a good enough answer? I feel so stupid.

[Bouncing Ball]

Originally Posted by robtex

I don't know if I can and keep the intregity of the post. Can I ask you to try babelfish for clarification? Wow your english is awsome, I thought you were fluent in it by your posts on RF i general. Here is the site for babelfish.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Yeah well, I did come close to the full translation, but just not good enough..
The bablefish didn't help much though. But I can try.
I will just explain my version and you can respond to it..

You have to consider free will as fiction for this. This should mean you could see us and all that lives as sort of robots. A computer with operating system.
this could also mean this world is like a huge computergame. think simcity combined with the sims
So, all codes and patterns.. The only thing that can break that is randomness.. Wich does not exist.

This ofcourse, is a very simplefied version! But as im of from work now, I will continue the rest later

[Buttercup]

Originally Posted by standing_alone

Ha ha, wow I'm so stupid. Well, this is just my personal belief (and I'm probably wrong), but to me, destiny seems to be the result of intervention of something supernatural. I don't believe in the supernatural (and to me, destiny seems to be supernatural), so I doubt the existence of destiny. Is that a good enough answer? I feel so stupid.

Yes it's a good answer and makes perfect sense. For once.

[robtex]

Originally Posted by standing_alone

Ha ha, wow I'm so stupid. Well, this is just my personal belief (and I'm probably wrong), but to me, destiny seems to be the result of intervention of something supernatural. I don't believe in the supernatural (and to me, destiny seems to be supernatural), so I doubt the existence of destiny. Is that a good enough answer? I feel so stupid.

I would concur with your premise because I feel the precursors for destiny are intent, (or motive) which in turn are contingent upon a supernatural entity. In our existance the only intentional motives are by the living creatures around us. The universe, itself, is motiveless and the question of why as applied to the universe, in terms of motive, does not exist.