The Responsibility of God (Jesus, Creator, beliefs, soul, choices)

[painted wolf]

Who said anything about God being a "good parent".
Do your parents controll your every action? Do they keep you from making bad choices? If so you lead a very boring life.
Just so you know I don't believe in Satan or the deluge.
I have my own "sorry myths".

wa:do

[skeptic griggsy]

See the new thread the problem of Heaven. Please don't use the all or nothng argument: it is not a matter of the parent keeping children from all harm but from unnecessary harm.

[skeptic griggsy]

Sorry, I couldn't edit the previous post to state the definitive disproof of free will as an excuse instead of the problem of Heaven as I now call this challenge.

[skeptic griggsy]

Ceridwen , I am greataer than He as I am real! So much for the ontological argument!

[Neo-Logic]

I do not support the idea of God in the ways that you frame it. I do not support the idea of a God, if by that idea, responsibility of personal actions are able to be diffused because of God. Everyone is responsible for their own actions and using something or someone else as an excuse shows a weak and feeble mind.

[emiliano]

This may be out of may league, but this interest me enough to risk a response:
Now responsibility is something that a hierarchically superior can demand of a hierarchically inferior, God been supreme in this hierarchy can demand responsibility from His creatures, who can demand responsibility from God?
I think that God makes Humans responsible for whatever happen on the creation because He gave them it dominion ( this is in the Bible, it’s a religious theme)

Any legal system will deem the Principle as fully responsible for his agents actions and as Gods authority is absolute how can the agent be held responsible for surely the actions of the agent are fully inspired by that absolute authority.

The religious belief is that he does and that He never fails to punish sin, so God does take responsibilities for his agents, and yes he exercises absolute responsibility, eg. The floods, and all the trails and tribulations that we all go through in this life, are you familiar with the reasoning for Jesus sacrifice? Who sacrificed Jesus?

[skeptic griggsy]

Nay, there is no such hierarchy as God has neither the right to jusge us or command worship [ discussed in Philo, journal of humanist philosophers]. His duty was to keep us from unrequited evil. That makes for a one-way street for Him.
As might does not make right, He is on the same moral plane as we. We are neither His sheep or His clay: we are morally autonomous from Him. Paul the Sophist is thus so wrong.

[zenzero]

friend SS,
Personally God / Satan are viewed as dualities; which is not necessary.
Love & rgds

[skeptic griggsy]

We have to be responsible for ourselves: those who help themselves, help themselves without deity! Many need the crutch of religion to give them the courage to relly on their own inner resourses. Albert Ellis in " The Myth of Self- Essteem" and Robert Price in "The Reason-Driven Life" and Paul Kurtz in his writings , urge us to take that resonsIbility.
Our responsibility doesn't preclude any god taking responsability to stop the free will of malfactors from working. No rational being would allow Lucifer to work.
Blesssings and good fortune to all!

[zenzero]

Friend Scott Sieger,
Though you joined in 2004; this is your first post.
Welcome to RF and best wishes .
To answer your OP if God is responsible for everything.
Yes, this has been accepted by Sanatan Dhrama and all its branches.
Nothing new in that as everything is God and we are part of it.
Love & rgds