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Old 11-19-2008, 07:35 PM
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Who says monotheism and paganism can't mix? Someone needs to lessen up on them defining lines there...

Sounds rather like a fundamentalist pagan. Which, there is certainly nothing wrong with, but like fundamentalism in any religion, it ignores the dynamic humanism that drives religious and spiritual belief.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:22 AM
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Maybe you're right, Guitar.

However, do you think that being a monotheistic Pagan can destroy the richness of Paganism? And how can one be Pagan and a monotheist at the same time? Pagan festivals celebrate different deities. Do you think that it would be better as a sort of soft-polytheism, or inclusive monotheism, in this case?
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Maybe you're right, Guitar.

However, do you think that being a monotheistic Pagan can destroy the richness of Paganism? And how can one be Pagan and a monotheist at the same time? Pagan festivals celebrate different deities. Do you think that it would be better as a sort of soft-polytheism, or inclusive monotheism, in this case?
I think that monotheistic Paganism adds to the richness. For instance, Native American spirituality often falls under the umbrella of Paganism, and--if the argument is made that it is not Paganism, but its own entity--has certainly influenced Neo-paganism. Native American spirituality can be very monotheistic (granted, not always, but often enough).

I am, of course using Pagan in the modern sense of the word. The lines are always blurred when labeling something that is inherently individual. For instance, what of Christian Wiccans? I sometimes label myself as a Christian-Pagan because I borrow from the mythology and symbolism of both.
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Whoever told you that obviously doesn't know what they're talking about.
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I am a follower of father Lucifer and previously Herne.Both have possessed my body and mind. I can tell you now that identifying yourself as part of a faith is very insignificant. I am not religious yet believe in both the pagan and non-pagan Gods of all pantheons. All that really matters is the Astal and the reclaimation of Heaven for both Grigori (your Gods) and Lucifer.
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I posted this in general debate but I thought it might go over better here.




Late last night I was told that I can not be a Pagan because it requires going back to an older, more primitive style of consciousness...social as well as individual...it requires monotheism to be unlearned. But no matter what I believe I will can not unlearn monotheist. Furthermore all religion is a way of knowing the truth...without having to comprehend the truth.
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"Every thing is alive, even the rocks, even that bench you are sitting on. Somebody made that bench for a purpose, didn't he. Well, then, it's alive, isn't it? Everything is alive. That's what we Indians believe. White people think everything is dead.." (Indian Tales. P.242).


From Thomas Bulfinch's Bulfinch Mythology, Age of Fable: Vols. I & II: Stories of Gods and Heroes.
“The Druids taught the existence of one god, to whom they gave a name “Be’ al,” which Celtic antiquaries tell us means “the life of everything,” or “the source of all beings,”
This one I translated from one from a Slavic site
The Sort - Slavic vsesushchy the unified God of all world and a source of all life.

Most had one Great Spirit or God, the Irish word for God is Dia & I read somewhere it was an Irish deity that looked like the Christian God. They normally name them after a god with the same characteristics not for the looks.

Maybe we made God in our image????
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Late last night I was told that I can not be a Pagan because it requires going back to an older, more primitive style of consciousness...social as well as individual...it requires monotheism to be unlearned. But no matter what I believe I will can not unlearn monotheist. Furthermore all religion is a way of knowing the truth...without having to comprehend the truth.
I don't see why this individual would assume that Pagan religions are more primitive than monotheism? The reconstructionists have emerged thousands of years after monotheism. You definitely would not have to unlearn monotheism to be pagan in the same way that you would not have to unlearn paganism to be monotheistic. If anything, paganism, as it is currently constructed, is more evolved than monotheism, if one wants to buy into such a ridiculous hierarchical conception.

How is religion a way of knowing the truth? What truth?
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I posted this in general debate but I thought it might go over better here.

Late last night I was told that I can not be a Pagan because it requires going back to an older, more primitive style of consciousness...social as well as individual...it requires monotheism to be unlearned. But no matter what I believe I will can not unlearn monotheist. Furthermore all religion is a way of knowing the truth...without having to comprehend the truth.
What a load of tripe. There are monotheistic religions under the pagan umbrella Wicca for example has the goddess.

It seems a shame that paganism can only really be explained as any religion that is one of the abrahamic faiths.

This person who told you this, was he/she christian? Has he/she never heard of hinduism? Just because this person doesnt have the requisite intellectual maturity to embrace a larger view of their own consciousness does not make them right.

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