Reincarnation (ritual, beliefs, soul, doctrine, spiritual)

[Runt]

The Celtic Doctrine of Rebirth and Transmigration of Souls (as stated in Faery Wicca by Kisma K. Stepanich) are the following:

Doctrine of Rebirth: "Our souls do not die, but pass from one body to another in the physical once we have chosen to incarnate in the physical. The esoteric secret of rebirth is: 'If you know what you sing, death is the center of a long life!' "

Transmigration of Souls: "Death was acknowledged as merely an interruptiion in a long life, as a bridge between one life and another, or one realm and another. The human soul was believed to remain in control of their bodies in another world after death. It was perceived that the souls of humankind were immortal and that after a definite number of years, people lived another life, when their souls inhabited another body."

[Master Hoomer]

to escape samsara....
to travel on the wheel....
to move on the swastika..........

In wg gray's version of tarot tree correspondants..(not the standard one that most use...via the golden dfawn) he places the 3 wheels horizontally between
netzach and hod (honour and victiory,7&8 venus and mercury) he places "fortune"

between
chesed and geburah (mercy and severity, 4&5 jupiter mars) he places "justice"

between
chockmah and binah(wisdom /understanding, 2 &3, uranus/the zodiac and saturn)he places "judgment"

Here we can see 3 wheel upon 3 distinct worlds...
modes of being
and stages of soul migration.....

fortune...to justice(like egyptian soul weighing) and judgment,,,often depicted as "the apocalyspse"..lol...but can be seen here as the final wheel...from which you do not return

3 concentric circles.......

another part of soul travel within 1 life time anyway..is the heroic image of the lighting bolt

Which appears in many celt tales.....(spect you know this...lol)

if we take east as "before you"...then the lighting bolt is the hero's journey around the circler,,,in this example he/she would go from east to south to north to west......air, fire eareth, water....

hmm sorry just thinking aloud..or something

[Azhria Lilu]

nice thoughts, nonetheless

[OctoberTheHottie]

Ok, one of my interests in my spiritual search is to better understand reincarnation, I have a very tiny bit more understnading than the usual outsider misconceptions, but not much more. Unfortunately the way you guys are speaking seems a little more structured than I can comprehend as of yet. I want to understand it on an easier level first, so let me know if there is a more appropriate place I should be posting or if I need to start my own post. But for starters, I am somewhat worried that I may not be on the right path or that possibly there my be a chance that I might not learn what I set out to learn in this lifetime. How am I supost to know if what I am doing or my beliefs are productive to my lesson? I am sure that there is some grain of understanding that I am missing, that I am sure that there are others that don't think that they are going to screw themselves up and accidentally revert to past lessons that they already learned ( I read that in a book ). But I am having a hard time understanding how that is, how can you learn certain lessons in past lives and not make the same mistakes again when you can live an entire life not even knowing that you had past lives or not even subscribing to the belief?? Maybe I was misinformed on that, but that is why I ask, so maybe someone can set me straight, lol.....

[Master Hoomer]

Ok, one of my interests in my spiritual search is to better understand reincarnation, I have a very tiny bit more understnading than the usual outsider misconceptions, but not much more.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ebod/index.htm the egyptian bok of the dead...this puports to be the best vbersion online..I have yet to read it...but I think this might help!
look under "egypt" at www.sacred-texts.com as well

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ce&s=books "through the gates of death" by Dion Fortune......dion is a bit dated but still WONDERFUL for anyone.....

thats just a suggestion

Unfortunately the way you guys are speaking seems a little more structured than I can comprehend as of yet. I want to understand it on an easier level first, so let me know if there is a more appropriate place I should be posting or if I need to start my own post.

Sorry I was babbling....Perhaps you neeed to research...and why not post here more or start your own post...no one is stopping you....

http://www.elib.com/Steiner/eLib.php3 this link is to Rudolf Steiner (anthroposophy) He was a genius....you may here find something you may like to look at....


But for starters, I am somewhat worried that I may not be on the right path or that possibly there my be a chance that I might not learn what I set out to learn in this lifetime.

I beleive one's path chooses One not the other weay around. Nothing ius wasted...anything you learn will be valuable....

My teacher's teacher likens the Western mysteries to the tale of Sleeping beauty....here we can see at the end the brave prince must hack his way thru the brambles to reach his prize the princess.....We can see this represents the knight as the the seeker...finding his/her way through traps and tricks toi find the one true path that works for them...in order to reach what is in this instance clearly is The Goddess..herself....

Stick with it.......unless you feel really uncomfortable.....maybe even meditate upon it....if you are really connected to your path or not...it will tell you

How am I supost to know if what I am doing or my beliefs are productive to my lesson? I am sure that there is some grain of understanding that I am missing, that I am sure that there are others that don't think that they are going to screw themselves up and accidentally revert to past lessons that they already learned ( I read that in a book ). But I am having a hard time understanding how that is, how can you learn certain lessons in past lives and not make the same mistakes again when you can live an entire life not even knowing that you had past lives or not even subscribing to the belief??


I have a ritual or a meditation which would help one find out about one's past life...I have not attempted it yet....its by Caitlin and matthews from their excelllent reprint of the Western way...in a book called "Walkers between worlds"...I could post this if you like???
Personally I was taught past life hypnosis is a bad idea..in most cases...and meditation can do the same without harm.....My teacher claims to actually see glimpses of past lives duroing sexual intercourse

Maybe I was misinformed on that, but that is why I ask, so maybe someone can set me straight, lol.....

You wil learn without even realising.....or not..you have many lives....if you feel the burning need toi essentially learn....then maybe you do need meditate and discover your past lives a bit......maybe even a decent proper astrology chart reading which could help you....this too I have links for....but havent paiud for YET.....

Love and light

[Master Hoomer]

Ok, one of my interests in my spiritual search is to better understand reincarnation, I have a very tiny bit more understnading than the usual outsider misconceptions, but not much more.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ebod/index.htm the egyptian bok of the dead...this puports to be the best vbersion online..I have yet to read it...but I think this might help!
look under "egypt" at www.sacred-texts.com as well

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ce&s=books "through the gates of death" by Dion Fortune......dion is a bit dated but still WONDERFUL for anyone.....

thats just a suggestion

Unfortunately the way you guys are speaking seems a little more structured than I can comprehend as of yet. I want to understand it on an easier level first, so let me know if there is a more appropriate place I should be posting or if I need to start my own post.

Sorry I was babbling....Perhaps you neeed to research...and why not post here more or start your own post...no one is stopping you....

http://www.elib.com/Steiner/eLib.php3 this link is to Rudolf Steiner (anthroposophy) He was a genius....you may here find something you may like to look at....


But for starters, I am somewhat worried that I may not be on the right path or that possibly there my be a chance that I might not learn what I set out to learn in this lifetime.

I beleive one's path chooses One not the other weay around. Nothing ius wasted...anything you learn will be valuable....

My teacher's teacher likens the Western mysteries to the tale of Sleeping beauty....here we can see at the end the brave prince must hack his way thru the brambles to reach his prize the princess.....We can see this represents the knight as the the seeker...finding his/her way through traps and tricks toi find the one true path that works for them...in order to reach what is in this instance clearly is The Goddess..herself....

Stick with it.......unless you feel really uncomfortable.....maybe even meditate upon it....if you are really connected to your path or not...it will tell you

How am I supost to know if what I am doing or my beliefs are productive to my lesson? I am sure that there is some grain of understanding that I am missing, that I am sure that there are others that don't think that they are going to screw themselves up and accidentally revert to past lessons that they already learned ( I read that in a book ). But I am having a hard time understanding how that is, how can you learn certain lessons in past lives and not make the same mistakes again when you can live an entire life not even knowing that you had past lives or not even subscribing to the belief??


I have a ritual or a meditation which would help one find out about one's past life...I have not attempted it yet....its by Caitlin and matthews from their excelllent reprint of the Western way...in a book called "Walkers between worlds"...I could post this if you like???
Personally I was taught past life hypnosis is a bad idea..in most cases...and meditation can do the same without harm.....My teacher claims to actually see glimpses of past lives duroing sexual intercourse

Maybe I was misinformed on that, but that is why I ask, so maybe someone can set me straight, lol.....

You wil learn without even realising.....or not..you have many lives....if you feel the burning need toi essentially learn....then maybe you do need meditate and discover your past lives a bit......maybe even a decent proper astrology chart reading which could help you....this too I have links for....but havent paiud for YET.....

Love and light

[Master Hoomer]

Ok, one of my interests in my spiritual search is to better understand reincarnation, I have a very tiny bit more understnading than the usual outsider misconceptions, but not much more.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ebod/index.htm the egyptian bok of the dead...this puports to be the best vbersion online..I have yet to read it...but I think this might help!
look under "egypt" at www.sacred-texts.com as well

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ce&s=books "through the gates of death" by Dion Fortune......dion is a bit dated but still WONDERFUL for anyone.....

thats just a suggestion

Unfortunately the way you guys are speaking seems a little more structured than I can comprehend as of yet. I want to understand it on an easier level first, so let me know if there is a more appropriate place I should be posting or if I need to start my own post.

Sorry I was babbling....Perhaps you neeed to research...and why not post here more or start your own post...no one is stopping you....

http://www.elib.com/Steiner/eLib.php3 this link is to Rudolf Steiner (anthroposophy) He was a genius....you may here find something you may like to look at....


But for starters, I am somewhat worried that I may not be on the right path or that possibly there my be a chance that I might not learn what I set out to learn in this lifetime.

I beleive one's path chooses One not the other weay around. Nothing ius wasted...anything you learn will be valuable....

My teacher's teacher likens the Western mysteries to the tale of Sleeping beauty....here we can see at the end the brave prince must hack his way thru the brambles to reach his prize the princess.....We can see this represents the knight as the the seeker...finding his/her way through traps and tricks toi find the one true path that works for them...in order to reach what is in this instance clearly is The Goddess..herself....

Stick with it.......unless you feel really uncomfortable.....maybe even meditate upon it....if you are really connected to your path or not...it will tell you

How am I supost to know if what I am doing or my beliefs are productive to my lesson? I am sure that there is some grain of understanding that I am missing, that I am sure that there are others that don't think that they are going to screw themselves up and accidentally revert to past lessons that they already learned ( I read that in a book ). But I am having a hard time understanding how that is, how can you learn certain lessons in past lives and not make the same mistakes again when you can live an entire life not even knowing that you had past lives or not even subscribing to the belief??


I have a ritual or a meditation which would help one find out about one's past life...I have not attempted it yet....its by Caitlin and matthews from their excelllent reprint of the Western way...in a book called "Walkers between worlds"...I could post this if you like???
Personally I was taught past life hypnosis is a bad idea..in most cases...and meditation can do the same without harm.....My teacher claims to actually see glimpses of past lives duroing sexual intercourse

Maybe I was misinformed on that, but that is why I ask, so maybe someone can set me straight, lol.....

You wil learn without even realising.....or not..you have many lives....if you feel the burning need toi essentially learn....then maybe you do need meditate and discover your past lives a bit......maybe even a decent proper astrology chart reading which could help you....this too I have links for....but havent paiud for YET.....

Love and light

ok reposted to make it easier to read..sorry

[Master Hoomer]

Ok, one of my interests in my spiritual search is to better understand reincarnation, I have a very tiny bit more understnading than the usual outsider misconceptions, but not much more.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ebod/index.htm the egyptian bok of the dead...this puports to be the best vbersion online..I have yet to read it...but I think this might help!
look under "egypt" at www.sacred-texts.com as well

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...ce&s=books "through the gates of death" by Dion Fortune......dion is a bit dated but still WONDERFUL for anyone.....

thats just a suggestion

Unfortunately the way you guys are speaking seems a little more structured than I can comprehend as of yet. I want to understand it on an easier level first, so let me know if there is a more appropriate place I should be posting or if I need to start my own post.

Sorry I was babbling....Perhaps you neeed to research...and why not post here more or start your own post...no one is stopping you....

http://www.elib.com/Steiner/eLib.php3 this link is to Rudolf Steiner (anthroposophy) He was a genius....you may here find something you may like to look at....


But for starters, I am somewhat worried that I may not be on the right path or that possibly there my be a chance that I might not learn what I set out to learn in this lifetime.

I beleive one's path chooses One not the other weay around. Nothing ius wasted...anything you learn will be valuable....

My teacher's teacher likens the Western mysteries to the tale of Sleeping beauty....here we can see at the end the brave prince must hack his way thru the brambles to reach his prize the princess.....We can see this represents the knight as the the seeker...finding his/her way through traps and tricks toi find the one true path that works for them...in order to reach what is in this instance clearly is The Goddess..herself....

Stick with it.......unless you feel really uncomfortable.....maybe even meditate upon it....if you are really connected to your path or not...it will tell you

How am I supost to know if what I am doing or my beliefs are productive to my lesson? I am sure that there is some grain of understanding that I am missing, that I am sure that there are others that don't think that they are going to screw themselves up and accidentally revert to past lessons that they already learned ( I read that in a book ). But I am having a hard time understanding how that is, how can you learn certain lessons in past lives and not make the same mistakes again when you can live an entire life not even knowing that you had past lives or not even subscribing to the belief??


I have a ritual or a meditation which would help one find out about one's past life...I have not attempted it yet....its by Caitlin and matthews from their excelllent reprint of the Western way...in a book called "Walkers between worlds"...I could post this if you like???
Personally I was taught past life hypnosis is a bad idea..in most cases...and meditation can do the same without harm.....My teacher claims to actually see glimpses of past lives duroing sexual intercourse

Maybe I was misinformed on that, but that is why I ask, so maybe someone can set me straight, lol.....

You wil learn without even realising.....or not..you have many lives....if you feel the burning need toi essentially learn....then maybe you do need meditate and discover your past lives a bit......maybe even a decent proper astrology chart reading which could help you....this too I have links for....but havent paiud for YET.....

Love and light

ok reposted to make it easier to read..sorry

[OctoberTheHottie]

Wow, thanx, I will be reading some of that, thanx for your help. I should have mentioned that I'm not really decided on an actual religious path, I read up on paganism and wicca a few years ago, so this was just the forum I felt closest to and how I started to learn more about reincarnation so I posted here. Alot of my beliefs stemmed from my read back then, I got so many ideas, which I believe I am on the right track with, but then stretch off in very odd directions?? Eitehr way, I never really got into paganism, I tried to meditate a couple of times and just fell asleep, lol, I don't really have others around me that are into things like that, so I guess that is something that I will have to work towards in time....

[OctoberTheHottie]

Wow, thanx, I will be reading some of that, thanx for your help. I should have mentioned that I'm not really decided on an actual religious path, I read up on paganism and wicca a few years ago, so this was just the forum I felt closest to and how I started to learn more about reincarnation so I posted here. Alot of my beliefs stemmed from my read back then, I got so many ideas, which I believe I am on the right track with, but then stretch off in very odd directions?? Eitehr way, I never really got into paganism, I tried to meditate a couple of times and just fell asleep, lol, I don't really have others around me that are into things like that, so I guess that is something that I will have to work towards in time....