Angellous vs Angellous: Is the Bible Inerrant? (Jesus Christ, reject, Creator)

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

That is, the fact that you and your friends don't think that you're putting the Bible on the same level as God does not mean that you don't actually do it. In fact, it is more than obvious that you do.

Either way your criticism that we elevate the Bible to the level of God is safegaurded in the Chicago document itself.

You said:

It elevates human beings to the status of gods. Only God is perfect, and the only media by which God can perfectly be revealed as God is through Jesus Christ Himself. We have an ancient doctrine that Christ is the perfect media of God's revelation of Godself. To elevate Scripture to a level of perfection is to put it on the same level as God.

However, Article 9 plainly disallows you from making that criticism:

"We affirm that inspiration, through not conferring omniscience, guaranteed true and trustworthy utterance on all matters of which the Biblical authors were moved to speak and write.

We deny that the finitude or falseness of these writers, by necessity or otherwise, introduced distortion or falsehood into God's Word."

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

However, Article 9 plainly disallows you from making that criticism:

"We affirm that inspiration, through not conferring omniscience, guaranteed true and trustworthy utterance on all matters of which the Biblical authors were moved to speak and write.

We deny that the finitude or falseness of these writers, by necessity or otherwise, introduced distortion or falsehood into God's Word."

Article 9 only addresses the writers, who indeed would have to be near comatose to remove themselves from making no errors - they would have to be completely under the control of God the whole time - unable to contribute anything themselves.

I was referring only to the finished product of Scripture and not the authors.

So does the document prevent me from making my original cricism?

EDIT: By the way, I find the idolatry of the Chicago statement explicit:

"The word 'canon', signifying a rule of standard, is a pointer to authority, which means the right to rule and control. Authority in Christianity belongs to God in His revelation, which means, on the one hand, Jesus Christ, the living Word, and, on the other hand, Holy Scripture, the written Word."

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

I was referring only to the finished product of Scripture and not the authors.

You don't remember writing this?

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

It elevates human beings to the status of gods.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

You don't remember writing this?

Ah, I see my mistake.

Thanks.

Quite right, the document does indeed keep me from saying that it elevates the writers of the Bible to the status of gods - but my criticism still applies to the autographs.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

So does the document prevent me from making my original cricism?

Yes - inasmuch as it applies to human beings.

I cannot find anything in the document that prevents the autographs themselves from being on the same status as God. Perhaps you can grant us that while the autographs themselves were perfect as God is perfect because they are a product of God, that they are not worthy of worship because they do not possess qualities that we attribute only to God: His creative power, majesty, and love. We do not recognize the Bible as a person, but the Written Word.

[angellous_evangellous]

Originally Posted by angellous_evangellous

Yes - inasmuch as it applies to human beings.

I cannot find anything in the document that prevents the autographs themselves from being on the same status as God. Perhaps you can grant us that while the autographs themselves were perfect as God is perfect because they are a product of God, that they are not worthy of worship because they do not possess qualities that we attribute only to God: His creative power, majesty, and love. We do not recognize the Bible as a person, but the Written Word.

But this statement from the Chicago document is so flagarant that I cannot excuse the idolatry: "Jesus Christ, the living Word, and, on the other hand, Holy Scripture, the written Word."