Jewscout Vs. The Truth (Earth, Israel, Zen)

[jewscout]

i made this statement in another thread:
i have not and do not attempt to demonize the Palestinian people.

and was responded to w/
Also, it's absurd when people keep defending themselves thinking that they are angels on earth saying:

i have not and do not attempt to demonize the Palestinian people.

Then, they don't give the right for others to claim the same thing about themselves.

in an attempt to not get off topic in said thread i would like you to point out to me where i have EVER demonized the Palestinian people as a whole.
we shall go from there...

[TashaN]

Sorry, i have bad net today.

Why do you think it's ok to condemn Arabs as a whole while they have peaceful treaties with Israel such as Egypt and Jordan?

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by The Truth

Sorry, i have bad net today.

Why do you think it's ok to condemn Arabs as a whole while they have peaceful treaties with Israel such as Egypt and Jordan?

you are correct, nations like Egypt and Jordan have gone against the policies of khartoum and extended a hand to Israel, but still other nations continue to support terrorism and the call for Israel's destruction.
you have pointed the finger at Israel, yet where is the 5 Billion dollars in international aid that was directly given to the PA?
Why do you feel it's ok to condemn Israel when Hamas is the one who breaks the cease-fires following the Gaza withdrawl?

[jewscout]

you still have not illustrated where i have personally:
A) demonized the Palestinian people
B) or where i have denied anyone rights

if you mean to lump me in w/ the rest of Israel and zionism it only goes to show that there is no difference when one says zionist and not jew.
if that is the case Israel offered equal citizenship and protection under the law when it was founded to all citzens, whether jew or not.

[TashaN]

I don't know details about the situation there but i know that Hamas before it was elected successfully was calling for destroying and kick all Israelians. Now, believe me it's different and they can't say the same thing nor do like what they were doing before and you will see.

Why Israel give rights for it's people and give nothing for Palestinians from what she gave to Israelian.

They just have to give them passport or just to give them the right to establish their own country.

So, you know now it's not accurate to condemn arabs as a whole is it? because all your posts before were just arabs did, arabs arabs as all of them are living in one country !!!

Did you forget that all arabs "or most of them at least" bycott Egypt when they first made a peace trety with Israel?

[jewscout]

Hamas can change it's language in its charter but the rhetoric that is spoken has not changed.

once a pull out from the west bank occurs, which i have no doubt it will, then i see no reason for anyone to deny the PA the right to create an independent state. I support such a solution and it makes the most sense. If you don't want to be an israeli then don't be one.

you talk about me and condemning the whole of the arab world yet you lump me and my opinions in w/ the bad policies of the Israeli government, why?

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by jewscout

you talk about me and condemning the whole of the arab world yet you lump me and my opinions in w/ the bad policies of the Israeli government, why?

Because you used to talk about Arabs in negative way as they live in one country, you should have point out which country is doing that the same when we can't claim that Iran represent all Muslims. For example, i can't claim that europe is anti-Muslims when one country is the one responsible for that act. Try to understand how people would feel when you attack them blindly putting them into one single cup.

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by jewscout

you still have not illustrated where i have personally:
A) demonized the Palestinian people

Palestinians are arabs too.

B) or where i have denied anyone rights

When you think it's ok for Israel to have shortage in it's dealing with Palestinians, killing them taking their houses, targeting their leaders, raping their girls, hitting old people and destroying their buildings but in the other side it's not ok for arabs to hate Israel for doing so with their Palestinian brothers.

[jewscout]

When you think it's ok for Israel to have shortage in it's dealing with Palestinians

Shortages like when Barak offered Arafat all of Gaza, 98% of the West bank and East Jerusalem, everything he always called for?

killing them taking their houses

Show me when this has happened and let me see the historical evidence for myself.

targeting their leaders

who?

raping their girls

when?

hitting old people

When?

Why do you condemn the whole of Israel when there are millions of Israeli jews who live side by side w/ Arab christians and muslims and desire peace? Are you any worse when you paint the whole of Israel as evil because of the actions its government?
Where is your condemnation of the broken cease-fire done by Hamas? Where are your articles on the corruption and ineptitude of the PA, especially during the rule of Arafat, which has been by far a greater cause for Palestinian suffering than any Israel can perpetuate? Why do you condemn Israel for attacks when Hamas and Islamic Jihad fire first? Do you expect a nation-state to take attacks like that without rebuttle?

Where is the 5 billion dollars in international aid which could have created homes and businesses?

Why do you place the blame at the feet of Israel and ignore the corruption on the otherside of the conflict?

[TashaN]

I do so to show you that both of them are suffering but not one side, like when Israelians came claiming that they the good guys.

Tom Hurndall, a British peace activist, student, and photographer, was shot in the head by an Israeli soldier in April of 2003 as he was trying to protect Palestinian children from Israeli tanks and gunfire in the Rafah refugee camp in the Gaza Strip. He later died of his wounds after lying comatose in a British hospital for nine months.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/new_...05_archive.htm

the Israeli occupation forces (IOF) arrested two Palestinian teenagers a week ago and proceeded to photograph them with mobile phones' built-in cameras while stark naked.
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9274

This day, June 29th, Rateb Abu Rahma, "the Palestinian Ghandi," -