Jewscout Vs. The Truth (Earth, Israel, Zen)

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by The Truth

I do so to show you that both of them are suffering but not one side, like when Israelians came claiming that they the good guys.

i doubt there are any "good guys" leading the fight on either side...the "good guys" suffer.
but how can the act perpetrated by "martyrs" of the Palestinian cause be swept aside, or worse, condoned?
you said:

'I can't imagine anyone who considers himself a human being can do this'

this could easily be appled to...

Ramallah mob beats 2 Israeli Reservists to death and mutilates their lifeless bodies, all after taking a wrong turn...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchin...and_Gaza_Strip

Israeli victims of Terrorism in 2002...
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/ter...ims/page1.html

killing a mother and her children, are they justifiable targets?
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/isra...ism127691.html

targeting the enemy...children
http://www.education.gov.il/children/page_8.htm

instead of a wedding, a funeral is held
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=1427286

dehumanizing actions have been made by individuals in the conflict, i doubt anyone is guilt free.
and we could go on and on w/ links of Israeli and Palestinian victims...but what's the point?
has this conflict doomed us to pointing the finger at the other, to spend the rest of our lives demonizing the other...who's profiting from this circle?

some food for thought this Shabbat...

EDIT: damnit the uncontrollable bolding happened again!

[TashaN]

That's why i told you in my pervious post before i post the links, BOTH of them are suffering but most of time Israel play the victim role even though they do much horrible things because they have power, developed weapons not stones.

Got what i'm trying to say?

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by The Truth

That's why i told you in my pervious post before i post the links, BOTH of them are suffering but most of time Israel play the victim role even though they do much horrible things because they have power, developed weapons not stones.

Got what i'm trying to say?

now that statement is a matter of perspective,
people see what they want to see, i can recall when i was in College we had a "Free Palestine Now" organization pushing the suffering of the Palestinian people into the spotlight meanwhile no organization showed the suffering on the Israeli side.

Understandably, from your perspective, Israel seems to always play the victim, however my view says if that were the case why would sites like Honestreporting.com which is pro-israel exist claiming media bias against Israel? (i'm not saying there is one way or the other i'm just making a point)

i see what you are saying, however, it is still a matter of perspective.
(not to say there isn't truth in ur points but we see things w/ the glasses we choose to view the world)

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by jewscout

now that statement is a matter of perspective,
people see what they want to see, i can recall when i was in College we had a "Free Palestine Now"

Because they want at least to acknowledge their own country if they couldn't return back all of their land back.

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by The Truth

Because they want at least to acknowledge their own country if they couldn't return back all of their land back.

ironically Free Palestine Now didn't have a single Palestinian or Arab in the organization, they were all suburbanite white kids

again, i see no reason why the Palestinians shouldn't have their own country, IMO it's not in the interest of Israel to try to control these areas, it is a drain on manpower and captial (hence the pullout from Gaza).

but i'm not an Israeli nor do i make policy, tho i think in hindsight that this was the view of Sharon who wanted, before his stroke, to implement a pull out from the West Bank region as well.