Aqualung vs Buttercup (Kingdom, choice, church, sin, bible) - Page 9

dawny0826 · #81 02-25-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FFH

Spirit Prison is a place that is reserved for those that do not accept Jesus Christ as their Savior.

Spirit Paradise is for those that have accepted Christ as their Savior.

Baptism is a necessary ordinance that must be recieved in order to permanently live where Christ and the Father dwell.

Not all Christians interpret this "Spiritual Prison" the same way.

And there's so little scripture to either prove or disprove...

Besides, it all boils down to personal intepretation...

dawny0826 · #82 02-25-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FFH

Baptism will be offered to those in Spirit Paradise, so that they will be able to live permanently with the Father and the Son in their kingdoms.

Again this is why Latter-day Saints continually do baptisms for the dead in over 100 temples that dot the earth.

And the LDS are certainly free to do this if they feel it is correct practice.

I don't interpret those verses pertaining to the Corinthians the same way.

dawny0826 · #83 02-25-2006, 01:47 AM

Anyhoo...

Have a wonderful night everyone.

As of now...I'm retiring from this thread until tomorrow.

dawny0826 · #84 02-25-2006, 01:53 AM

And good gracious...it's amazing what staying up past your bedtime will do to your brain...please pardon my many, many typos and grammatical errors.

dawny0826 · #85 02-25-2006, 02:03 AM

All reference scripture.

If you want someone else's POV...

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-co...r-baptism.html

http://www.christinyou.net/pages/baptism.html

http://www.believers.org/believe/bel190.htm

http://www.truthsaves.org/articles/baptism.shtml

Victor · #86 02-25-2006, 02:05 AM

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FFH · #87 02-25-2006, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Buttercup

Do LDS teachings teach that someone in spirit prison can be saved after death?

Yes I believe that anyone can be saved from Spirit Prison if they accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Baptism and other sacred ordinances would then be offered in Spirit Paradise.

Jesus Christ wlll do all in his power to save as many as will believe in him.

Jesus Christ was three days and three nights preaching in Spirit Prison, while his body lay in the tomb, he preached to them in the spirit.

Matthew 12: 40

"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

Spirit Prison is in the heart of the earth, and is in another spiritual dimension.

Peter 3: 18-21

18- For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19- By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison.

20- Which sometimes were disobedient, when once the longsufferings of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21- The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

22- Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Baptism is symbolic of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The person being baptized is layed back into the water (symbolizing the death of Jesus Christ, which took away our sins and washed us clean) and then we are brought out of the water (symbolizing the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and our rebirth into a life free from the affects of past sin). We truly are reborn, and covenant at this time to follow Christ and keep his commandments which he has given us.

FFH · #88 02-25-2006, 04:28 AM

John introduced baptism by water and Jesus Christ showed the importance of Baptism of the Holy Ghost. We must be baptized by both water and by fire. Baptism is symbolic, and reminds us of Christ's death and resurrection, and is necessary to complete the remission of sins. Christ's atonement, along with the ordinance of baptism washes us clean of all our sins. Both are necessary for salvation.

Men will be recieved into Paradise, if they believe in Jesus Christ, but are not baptized, as the thief on the cross represents. The thief on the cross recieved Jesus Christ as his Savior, and will be given the chance to recieve baptism, vicariously, through men on earth. Vicarious work for the dead is what mainly goes on in LDS temples.

wmam · #89 02-25-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor

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Ummmmmmmmmmm.................

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Originally Posted by Aqualung

Since all parties either agree or have stopped responding to this thread, I am going to increase it to two-on-two. Me and Squirt vs Buttercup and Dawny.

As well as..........

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Originally Posted by Buttercup

Ha! Ok, this should be fun.....but, I'm telling you right now....it's gonna boil down to interpretation and we will end up in a draw again! Mark my words!

We have to go to Home Depot before they close.....good Lucky Dawny ! whoooot Whoot!

Are both of the starters of said thread and I am sure since they both have agreed to take this to the next step that they would not have a problem with you doing as you see fit.