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03-14-2007, 12:19 AM
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#52
03-14-2007, 09:20 AM
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 As FFH pointed out, it's in the D&C 93:29. "Intelligence or the light of truth was not created or made..."
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03-14-2007, 06:20 PM
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D&C 93:36-37,39-40,42 36 The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth. 37 Light and truth forsake that evil one. 39 And that wicked one cometh and taketh away light and truth, through disobedience, from the children of men, and because of the tradition of their fathers. 40 But I have commanded you to bring up your children in light and truth. 42 You have not taught your children light and truth, according to the commandments; and that wicked one hath power, as yet, over you, and this is the cause of your affliction. PS. did you notice the first word in the scripture you all quoted?  (MAN, wouldn't that connotate a form?)EDIT: Anyway, I don't see how it matters, I asked why you thought an intelligence doesn't have a form. If an intelligence is as you guys say, "light of truth" then I would also have to ask how you can exist as a principle? The light of truth isn't a thing, it is an idea. How does one exist as an idea?
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03-14-2007, 06:27 PM
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"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself." ~ Declaration of Abroth ~
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03-14-2007, 06:42 PM
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#56
03-14-2007, 06:45 PM
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 You lost me. EDIT: Anyway, I don't see how it matters, I asked why you thought an intelligence doesn't have a form. If an intelligence is as you guys say, "light of truth" then I would also have to ask how you can exist as a principle? The light of truth isn't a thing, it is an idea. How does one exist as an idea?[/quote]I don't know. I don't see it as either a thing, a principle or an idea. I see it as a divine attribute, like love.
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03-14-2007, 07:50 PM
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It says "'man' was also in the beginning with God." Using the word "man" doesn't give the impression that we were without form. Quote:
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03-14-2007, 09:46 PM
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03-15-2007, 04:24 AM
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  I was just posting that as a note of interest, which pertained to what we were talking about...Church Conference April 7, 1844 (King Follett Sermon) The immortal Intelligence The first principles of man are self-existent with God. God himself, finding he was in the midst of spirits and glory, because he was more intelligent, saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a privilege to advance like himself. The relationship we have with God places us in a situation to advance in knowledge. He has power to institute laws to instruct the weaker intelligences, that they may be exalted with Himself, so that they might have one glory upon another, and all that knowledge, power, glory, and intelligence, which is requisite in order to save them in the world of spirits. This is good doctrine. They are given to me by the revelations of Jesus Christ; and when I tell you of these things which were given me by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, you are bound to receive them as sweet, and rejoice more and more. ~ Joseph Smith ~ Last edited by FFH; 03-15-2007 at 05:26 AM. |
