A Discussion of the Thread: Porkchop & FFH (Latter-Day Saints, Earth)

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Originally Posted by *Paul*

It has?? Can you measure it, weigh it, grab hold of it, reflect light off it, smell it does it produce sound waves without a physical medium?

Does Mormonism teach differently in this regard?

Paul, science could not detect a great many things 100 years ago that have always existed and that we can now detect. That doesn't mean those things did not exist 100 years ago, it simply meant that we didn't understand enough to know how to detect it.


D&C 131:7-8
7 There is no such thing as immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but it is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes;
8 We cannot see it; but when our bodies are purified we shall see that it is all matter.

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Originally Posted by *Paul*

You quoted two questions I asked there, which one do you mean? I may have asked if you believe our spirits are sexually begotten once but I am quite certain i have never asked the other question as I had never heard this said before.

If I have asked these several times then I apologise, your answers obviously are not sinking in and the idea must be rooted in my mind from somewhere.

I meant the question about God creating spirits sexually. I thought I remembered you asking that before and I thought it had been answered...

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by feo caritas

a spirit has no physical substance?

Uh... Are you saying you didn't understand what I meant? I put the words "flesh and bones" in parentheses because I was alluding to the fact that, as Jesus said, "a spirit hath not flesh and bones as ye see me have."

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by *Paul*

It has?? Can you measure it, weigh it, grab hold of it, reflect light off it, smell it does it produce sound waves without a physical medium?

Does Mormonism teach differently in this regard?

Joseph Smith taught that spirit is matter, but that it is such refined matter that we as mortals are normally unable to see it. I suppose that it is possible, under certain circumstances, for a human being to be able to see a spirit, because when Christ's Apostles first saw Him after His resurrection, they were afraid "because they thought they had seen a spirit." But we do not believe a spirit is tangible, which is why Jesus told His Apostles to touch the wounds in His hands and feet, thereby proving that His spirit had given new life to His physical body.

[*Paul*]

Its' good to know your stances on this "matter" I was unaware of this belief.

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Originally Posted by Katzpur

Uh... Are you saying you didn't understand what I meant? I put the words "flesh and bones" in parentheses because I was alluding to the fact that, as Jesus said, "a spirit hath not flesh and bones as ye see me have."

yes, I am saying I don't understand what you mean. Not having a flesh and bone body isn't the same as no physical substance at all...

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by feo caritas

yes, I am saying I don't understand what you mean. Not having a flesh and bone body isn't the same as no physical substance at all...

A spirit is non-corporeal. Better?

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Originally Posted by Katzpur

A spirit is non-corporeal. Better?

yes. I don't know why you need to roll your eyes. We believe that everything is a physical substance so it doesn't make any sense to say it that way. Don't you agree?