Is Bin Laden Now Innocent Until Proven Guilty? (hell, America)

[Joe_Stocks]

Hello everybody,

In light of the latest Supreme Court decision where the detainees at Gitmo have a right to a hearing wouldn't Bin Laden be innocent until proven guilty?

I mean, say we capture Bin Laden, isn't he given this right to a hearing? And if it is to be a fair hearing wouldn't he have to be innocent until proven guilty?

And doesn't this undercut many opponents of the Iraq war that say that we should be going after (and indeed trying to kill) Bin Laden instead of going to Iraq?

[angellous_evangellous]

Not if we kill him on sight as planned.

[Sunstone]

Of course he's innocent until proven guilty. Would you prefer to live in a country where the president or chairman could declare you guilty without a trial? Then move to China. Or Cuba. Or North Korea.

[kai]

Originally Posted by Sunstone

Of course he's innocent until proven guilty. Would you prefer to live in a country where the president or chairman could declare you guilty without a trial? Then move to China. Or Cuba. Or North Korea.

i agree, although taking him alive is going to be difficult, if he is capured then he must stand trial.

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by Joe Stocks

And doesn't this undercut many opponents of the Iraq war that say that we should be going after (and indeed trying to kill) Bin Laden instead of going to Iraq?

How do you figure that?

[NoahideHiker]

Bin Ladin hates Bush so ergo not only is he innocent he is a hero. [sarcasm]

Personally when someone says, "I am the one who fly the planes into the WTC and I am declaring war on America.", I tend to take them at there word. Fine, we are at war. See you on the battlefield. Our troops have found educational material in Iraq that teach how to use our legal system and the media against us.

Anyone who thinks we can win this war by treating it like a murder trial is just fooling themselves.

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by NoahideHiker

Bin Ladin hates Bush so ergo not only is he innocent he is a hero. [sarcasm]

Personally when someone says, "I am the one who fly the planes into the WTC and I am declaring war on America.", I tend to take them at there word. Fine, we are at war. See you on the battlefield. Our troops have found educational material in Iraq that teach how to use our legal system and the media against us.

Anyone who thinks we can win this war by treating it like a murder trial is just fooling themselves.

Oh bunk. That's no better than Fox propaganda. You can do better than that. Anyone who thinks we can win by caving into the hysteria of those of us who demand security more than the rule of law is just fooling themselves.

[Smoke]

Originally Posted by Joe Stocks

Hello everybody,

In light of the latest Supreme Court decision where the detainees at Gitmo have a right to a hearing wouldn't Bin Laden be innocent until proven guilty?

I mean, say we capture Bin Laden, isn't he given this right to a hearing? And if it is to be a fair hearing wouldn't he have to be innocent until proven guilty?

And doesn't this undercut many opponents of the Iraq war that say that we should be going after (and indeed trying to kill) Bin Laden instead of going to Iraq?

What's the problem? Do you think there's a lack of evidence to show that he's guilty?

[Smoke]

Originally Posted by Sunstone

Yet, you feel free to liken me to a rapid animal.

A gazelle, perhaps?

[Sunstone]

Originally Posted by MidnightBlue

A gazelle, perhaps?

My thoughts, precisely! And I resent the implication I mow my lawn by eating it.