Is Bin Laden Now Innocent Until Proven Guilty? (moral, America)

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

I totally agree. I just think that the Cuban people may take issue with what goes on there similarly to the American people... that's all.

Do you know anything about what it is like to live in Cuba? What the Cubano's "think" has nothing to do with how the country is run. Many would rather face sharks in a rubber raft than live under a dictatorship.

You can go to prison for voicing an unpopular opinion there.

Let me ask you a question, do you know who are the highest wage earners in Cuba?

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Do you know anything about what it is like to live in Cuba? What the Cubano's "think" has nothing to do with how the country is run. Many would rather face sharks in a rubber raft than live under a dictatorship.

You can go to prison for voicing an unpopular opinion there.

And what does it say about the actions of the American government that even a regime like Castro's can take the moral high ground on this issue?

[kai]

Originally Posted by 9-10ths_Penguin

And what does it say about the actions of the American government that even a regime like Castro's can take the moral high ground on this issue?

Castro's Government doesn't need the moral high ground to take issue with the US, doesn't it consider the Guantanamo base illegally occupied?

[Mathematician]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Do you know anything about what it is like to live in Cuba?

Apparently you don't.

[Elessar]

Originally Posted by kai

Castro's Government doesn't need the moral high ground to take issue with the US, doesn't it consider the Guantanamo base illegally occupied?

Nope, they consider it legally rented by the United States from them. And the State Department still delivers them $100 in gold annually to pay for leasing the base - though Cuba is not allowed to terminate the agreement under the agreement. The Soviets convinced Castro to leave it and not push the issue, and, now, 40-some years later, we have the confusing legal precedent of the U.S. paying a government it doesn't recognize, which it won't trade or engage in discourse with whatsoever, $100 a year to lease land for a naval base.

[kai]

Originally Posted by Elessar

Nope, they consider it legally rented by the United States from them. And the State Department still delivers them $100 in gold annually to pay for leasing the base - though Cuba is not allowed to terminate the agreement under the agreement. The Soviets convinced Castro to leave it and not push the issue, and, now, 40-some years later, we have the confusing legal precedent of the U.S. paying a government it doesn't recognize, which it won't trade or engage in discourse with whatsoever, $100 a year to lease land for a naval base.

I got that from here.

The Cuban government opposes the presence of the naval base, claiming that the lease is invalid under international law. The US government claims that the lease is valid.


Guantanamo Bay Naval Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Elessar]

Originally Posted by kai

I got that from here.

The Cuban government opposes the presence of the naval base, claiming that the lease is invalid under international law. The US government claims that the lease is valid.


Guantanamo Bay Naval Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I stand corrected.