Obama or Mcain for President? (Darwin, God)

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by Nanda

I'd always heard that black voters really liked the Clintons.

Historically that is true. Some have even said Bill Clinton was the first black president.

The superdelegates are going to disenfranchise the black community when they pick Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nominee when by rights Barrack Obama has earned the right to be the nominee.

[Nanda]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Historically that is true. Some have even said Bill Clinton was the first black president.

The superdelegates are going to disenfranchise the black community when they pick Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nominee when by rights Barrack Obama has earned the right to be the nominee.

These statements assume an awful lot. In fact, this whole thread is full of assumptions, on either end. Regardless of how things turn out, some people are going to look rather foolish when this is over.

[PureX]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Historically that is true. Some have even said Bill Clinton was the first black president.

The superdelegates are going to disenfranchise the black community when they pick Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nominee when by rights Barrack Obama has earned the right to be the nominee.

They won't choose her if Obama has more delegates. And at this point, it looks like he will, even after PA. I don't think this will go all the way to the convention as Hillary wants. I think that in June, after all the votes are cast, Obama will still have a delegate lead, and at that point the super-delegates will give him the nod.

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Your post has obvious overtones of stupidity and racism. I think you are wrong about this. There is nothing wrong with women and blacks wanting a president that is black or a woman.

No, there's not. I'd like a gay president myself, but not Rich Tafel. Not that you were not talking about a black president; you were talking about a black vice-president. The Vice President is normally a politically marginal figure, at least when we have a president who can read and think straight.

So, yeah, I do think it's stupid and racist to assume that black voters will flock to absolutely any candidate if he chooses a black running mate. And who would that black running be, anyway? Alan Keyes?

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

By rights, Obama should be the nominee but the Democratic party and the Superdelegates are going to nominate Hillary Clinton and disenfranchise a whole lotta black folk who are goin to be mad as a hornet and teach the party a lesson.

Sounds like a desperate Republican grasping at straws to me.

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

The superdelegates are going to disenfranchise the black community when they pick Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nominee when by rights Barrack Obama has earned the right to be the nominee.

It's going to make me sad if it's necessary to stone you as a false prophet.

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by PureX

They won't choose her if Obama has more delegates. And at this point, it looks like he will, even after PA. I don't think this will go all the way to the convention as Hillary wants. I think that in June, after all the votes are cast, Obama will still have a delegate lead, and at that point the super-delegates will give him the nod.

Purex, if neither get the number of delegates necessary to grasp the nomination, having the most delegates but not enough will not insure anything.

My point in all this is, the Democrats are just as crooked as the evil Republicans they rail against and once again the black man will get the shaft. Sounds like the same old okie doke to me.

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by MidnightBlue

It's going to make me sad if it's necessary to stone you as a false prophet.

No, you will be glad I am wrong.

Can my last meal be potatoe pancakes with you all before I am stoned to death?

[Draka]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Purex, if neither get the number of delegates necessary to grasp the nomination, having the most delegates but not enough will not insure anything.

My point in all this is, the Democrats are just as crooked as the evil Republicans they rail against and once again the black man will get the shaft. Sounds like the same old okie doke to me.

Oh, so if they were to go with a woman then it's a case of racial discrimination?

It has often been said that a black man will be president before a woman ever will. Just what does that say?

The fact of the matter is is that this may well have to be fought out at the convention. Look, the difference of delegates is hovering near a hundred, a hundred. What does this say? This say that the Democrats are so split on this that it is pretty much half and half. It has already been concluded that neither of them could get the needed about of delegates to win...even with the remaining states. So what this may well come down to is a meeting of the minds. Working out a strategy to help ensure that the Democratic party not only wins the Presidency, but that, truly, the best candidate is the one in office. Whether that comes down to Obama or Clinton I don't believe anyone here knows f