If you make over 75,000 a year, are you rich? (hell)

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by mball1297

OOOO! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Kick him in the head!

I have the utmost respect for Nutshell, it will be a civilized debate of the highest caliber.

[mball1297]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

I have the utmost respect for Nutshell, it will be a civilized debate of the highest caliber.

I know. I don't mean to imply anything else. That was just the reaction that came to mind. It reminded me of someone saying "Let's take this outside". Sorry, I only meant it as a joke.

[Reverend Rick]

Your cool mball. I enjoy the banter.

[Starfish]

Originally Posted by nutshell

Any comments, Rick or Starfish?

Nutshell, are you in favor of spending more money on welfare? What do you suggest be done?

I don't doubt there are children hungry in America; however, I would bet the responsibility falls on the decisions of the parents. Of course children should not have to suffer for their parents choices. But just giving the parents more money is only a bandaid on a bigger problem.

This bigger problem will continue to grow as long as immorality grows. If children weren't being raised in single parent homes to the degree that they are today, poverty would greatly diminish. Unwed pregnancy and absent fathers, and everything that encourages and leads to that is the bigger problem. It's all part of the collapse of the family. This lifestyle repeats generation after generation.

This is where we need to focus. But since we "cannot legislate morality" or "judge other's lifestyles", it's a difficult battle. Everything we do to strengthen and protect families is politically incorrect to someone.

So, what do you suggest?

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by Starfish

Nutshell, are you in favor of spending more money on welfare? What do you suggest be done?

I don't doubt there are children hungry in America; however, I would bet the responsibility falls on the decisions of the parents. Of course children should not have to suffer for their parents choices. But just giving the parents more money is only a bandaid on a bigger problem.

This bigger problem will continue to grow as long as immorality grows. If children weren't being raised in single parent homes to the degree that they are today, poverty would greatly diminish. Unwed pregnancy and absent fathers, and everything that encourages and leads to that is the bigger problem. It's all part of the collapse of the family. This lifestyle repeats generation after generation.

This is where we need to focus. But since we "cannot legislate morality" or "judge other's lifestyles", it's a difficult battle. Everything we do to strengthen and protect families is politically incorrect to someone.

So, what do you suggest?

Please stay tuned for the one-on-one between the good reverend and me. Perhaps you'd like to start a one-on-one debate comment thread.

[GeneCosta]

Poor, fat Americans are a product of fast food. A typical diner costs me about $7, before tips. Sushi costs me $14 for a filling meal. A 6" sandwich at Subway costs me about $2.50, but it's certainly not going to fill you up. A two-patty cheeseburger with fries and a large drink at $4 is a good deal.

Poor Americans have two choices. Either they eat fast food and become seriously ill later on in their life, or they stick to a strict regiment of peanut-butter sandwiches and cereal which is absolutely terrible for your health.

Food stamps are never meant (nor can they be used) to cover a household's total food expenses.

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by GeneCosta

Poor, fat Americans are a product of fast food. A typical diner costs me about $7, before tips. Sushi costs me $14 for a filling meal. A 6" sandwich at Subway costs me about $2.50, but it's certainly not going to fill you up. A two-patty cheeseburger with fries and a large drink at $4 is a good deal.

Poor Americans have two choices. Either they eat fast food and become seriously ill later on in their life, or they stick to a strict regiment of peanut-butter sandwiches and cereal which is absolutely terrible for your health.

This is a myth. Poor Americans can buy and make healthy food for the same cost. It's been demonstrated many times.


Oh - and I just ate a peanut-butter and banana sandwich.

[Shadow Wolf]

75k a year where I live means you are very rich. 50k - 60k is more than enough money to live without financial stress, and very comfortably.

[Shadow Wolf]

Poor Americans have two choices. Either they eat fast food and become seriously ill later on in their life, or they stick to a strict regiment of peanut-butter sandwiches and cereal which is absolutely terrible for your health.

I make less than 10k a year, and I can even afford to eat better than that.