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Old 02-20-2008, 02:31 PM
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Default What Change, Specifically, is Obama Talking About?

There's an awful lot about this country (the USA) that I love. I'm a little concerned about change, because some things I'd rather not see changed. I think we do a lot of things quite well.

Anyway, what does Obama want to do specifically, and how?
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Transparent government, patent reform, health care, and a few other things
http://obama.3cdn.net/780e0e91ccb6cdbf6e_6udymvin7.pdf
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:17 PM
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Transparent government, patent reform, health care, and a few other things
http://obama.3cdn.net/780e0e91ccb6cdbf6e_6udymvin7.pdf
Thank you. I read through it. I didn't see a lot of change, but I did see the emphasis on perserving what's working. I agree with that.
A lot of his platform seems to be about technology. I'm not sure I see this as change, but more keeping up with the times. I suspect the government is moving in that direction already. Is there any country with equal or more access to technology than the U.S.? At least among its citizens.
I didn't see anything about really protecting our boarders, national defense, and the war. Maybe I missed it. This seems too important to ignore, and to me, is the main purpose for a national government.
Thanks again.
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Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Technology

Check it out Starfish. While keeping up with technology may not necessarily be change - using that technology for a transparent government is. No more secrets.
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I didn't see anything about really protecting our boarders, national defense, and the war. Maybe I missed it. This seems too important to ignore, and to me, is the main purpose for a national government.
Thanks again.
His stances respectively:
Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Immigration
Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Homeland
Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Iraq

OR if you want (and I actually prefer doings this) go to the Political Positions of Barack Obama Wikipedia page and read for yourself.

Also, check it this video. It's a little long but very worthwhile.
http://lessig.org/blog/4obama.mov
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Here's what he says about border control / immigration:

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Immigration
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I like. I may yet end up voting for Obama, even with the points I disagree on.
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For me as an Obama supporter, I think he's talking about change from the present administration, which would include things like:
Preserving, rather than undermining, constitutional protections,
Balancing the budget, no new spending without a way to pay for it,
No criminal malfeasance by the administration,
Compliance with international law,
No stupid misguided foreign wars based on lies, especially ones we can't afford to pay for,
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For me as an Obama supporter, I think he's talking about change from the present administration, which would include things like:
Preserving, rather than undermining, constitutional protections,
And making America less safe. The terrorists love his plan.
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Balancing the budget, no new spending without a way to pay for it,
Give health care to one group and let another group pay for it.
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No criminal malfeasance by the administration,
Compliance with international law,
We are not an international community. We are a sovereign nation that answers to no one.
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No stupid misguided foreign wars based on lies, especially ones we can't afford to pay for,
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So instead of a war we can't afford we will have health care we can't afford. So much for the budget.
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And making America less safe. The terrorists love his plan. Give health care to one group and let another group pay for it. We are not an international community. We are a sovereign nation that answers to no one.So instead of a war we can't afford we will have health care we can't afford. So much for the budget.
So much for the budget? What do you think Bush has done to the budget? China is paying for our war in Iraq. Stupid.

Also, the so-called "war on terror" has not made America any safer.

Finally, health care is broken. If you don't recognize that then I see there's no reasoning with you.

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